I also came across these quotations:
Questions to ask oneself, is it a privilege to hasten or is it a privilege to delude oneself.
Is it our power to hasten, or is it our power to imagine only.
Did He put it in our power to bring this misery to an end, or is it out of our power.
Are we only illusioned pawns in a charade.


If one believes that we cannot change a fixed date, a fixed future, a future that has already played out, or one and not the other (?!), then it would be understandable how one thinks Ellen White was deluded or deluding others, and it's understandable how the referred to atheist feels.

I suppose one could prefer to substitute in some other word's definition for "hasten" and "power"....

I'm satisfied we agree Ellen believed "that it was certain to God that sin would rise and that it would affect humanity." Whether or not we agree she believed Lucifer and Satan are the same angel isn't as important to me.

Just curious, though, is it possible Ellen had some other angel in mind, other than Lucifer, when she said, "From the beginning, God and Christ knew of the apostasy of Satan, and of the fall of man through the deceptive power of the apostate"?

"Thus it was that Lucifer, "the light bearer," the sharer of God's glory, the attendant of His throne, by transgression became Satan, "the adversary" of God and holy beings and the destroyer of those whom Heaven had committed to his guidance and guardianship. {PP 39.2}

What contradiction? Jesus said, "But of that day and hour knoweth . . . my Father only." Ellen wrote, "The exact time of the second coming of the Son of man is God's mystery. {DA 632.4} Neither Jesus nor Ellen could have stated it more plainly. Eventually God will announce it. "Soon we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus' coming. {CET 58.1}

We exist in the present. We cannot coexist in the past or the future. God, on the other hand, exists in the past, present, and future simultaneously. However, since we exist in the present, He can only interact with us in the present. Again, His experience in the past and the future has zero affect on our experience in the present for the simple reason we do not exist in the past or the future. Your unwillingness to believe it is true doesn’t make it false.


You believe God created beings He knew might sin and rebel and die. If God hadn’t created them, however, the chances of rebellion and death would have been zero. And, of course, He was free to not create them. The fact God chose to create them, even though He knew the chances they would rebel and die was greater than zero, makes it clear that He alone made it possible for rebellion and death to happen.


God was not obligated to grant life to you and I. The fact He did is no different than creating beings He knew would sin. With this insight in mind, please consider the fact God gave life to people like Hitler and Hussein even though He knew they would sin.


Do you shoot craps or something? You’re always comparing things to dice and games of chance. The fact Jesus “could have sinned” implies risk. The fact “not for one moment was there in Him an evil propensity” implies He knew He would never choose to sin. The fact Jesus only expressed it in positive terms implies He knew He would succeed. The fact you have never posted an inspired statement where Jesus expressed doubt about it implies you know He never did.


There appears to be two problems - 1) The fact the Father and the Son met three times to agree on implementing the plan of salvation, and 2) the fact both of them knew Jesus would succeed. You want to know, Why would they confer about it if they already knew the outcome? Again, their knowledge of the future has zero affect on how things play out in the present. Their knowledge of the future merely reflects how things played out.


You really don’t understand my point, do you? God’s knowledge of the day and hour of Jesus’ return merely reflects how things played out.


Okay.


Are you implying Gethsemane represents a time when Jesus very nearly failed? If so, please elaborate. If not, then do you agree with me Jesus never even got close to failing?

Again, God's knowledge of the future merely reflects how things played out. Before things play out, we are free to choose as we please.

God's knowledge of the future merely reflects how things played out. Like watching a rerun. You seem to think this means we are not truly free to choose as we please? Since God is merely reporting the facts after the fact why would anyone conclude no one is truly free to choose as they please?

I am not particularily concerned with what Ellen might have thought about a question where the real point is what God would have thought.

Thomas, do you believe Lucifer became Satan when he rebelled against God? Comparing the following two passages make it clear to me they are. What do you think?

Revelation
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Isaiah
14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Also, you said "the real point is what God would have thought." What are you referring to?

Seeming to think that the characters in a re-run aren't able to do something differently. This is what you're asking?

And just how do you think that one can do something different than what one has already done?

The one right above your question. Compare the first statement you stated with the second.