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Wilderness Skills #130138
01/14/11 05:50 PM
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Mountain Man, I see by your website that you are an outdoor enthusiast. What would you say are the most important survival tools/equipment? Is cotton really that deadly? And the Big Question--what is the best survival knife?


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Re: Wilderness Skills [Re: JAK] #130171
01/17/11 04:46 PM
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Thank you for asking. The most important tools and skills depends on why you are surviving. There are two basic types of survival: 1) unintentional, and 2) intentional. To survive an unintentional situation in the wilderness, having a Satellite Phone is the most important tool. You can call for help, thus eliminating the need to survive. Of course, having the tools and skills to build a fire under any circumstances is also important. The best knife is the Swiss Army Trekker. If you are intentionally entering the wilderness to live like a mountain man, then things are very different.

Re: Wilderness Skills [Re: Mountain Man] #130173
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Originally Posted By: MM
To survive an unintentional situation in the wilderness, having a Satellite Phone is the most important tool. You can call for help, thus eliminating the need to survive.


Can't argue with this! However, Satellite Phones are very expensive. I wonder if it's possible to rent them, just for when you might need it (like a trip somewhere that doesn't have cell service).


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Re: Wilderness Skills [Re: Mountain Man] #130174
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As good as that may be, not many of us have or can afford a satellite phone on the off chance that we may find ourselves in a survival situation. Of course, most people have a cell phone, but they may be out of range of a tower.

Although better than nothing, the SA Trekker would not be my first choice, as I believe it has two strikes against it. 1) it is a folder, with a multitude of tools, which makes it weak, and 2) it has a serrated blade, which is difficult to maintain in the field. (Unless you go with the Trekker Black; you did not specify which model.) It does have a saw, which is useful, but sadly it is too short for any kind of serious work.


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Re: Wilderness Skills [Re: Tom] #130175
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Originally Posted By: Tom
(like a trip somewhere that doesn't have cell service).


Here in Canada, that would be every trip. ROFL


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Re: Wilderness Skills [Re: JAK] #130178
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A GPS location devise such as Spot might be something to look at. The transmitter and account can be operational starting around $250 - $300.00

However, Spot or Satellite Phone, if you are in a situation where you need to use them, rescue will not be immediate. Responders need time to ramp-up, and you can count on several hours before the cavalry crests the hill.


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Re: Wilderness Skills [Re: JAK] #130179
01/17/11 07:44 PM
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Quote:
Here in Canada, that would be every trip.


Nice.


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Re: Wilderness Skills [Re: Tom] #130197
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The iSat Phone (new as of last year) doesn't cost much more than the Spot, and is less than a Smart Phone. The Swiss Army Black Trekker is my knife of choice because it has a locking blade, saw, and minimal tools. I also carry a Silky Boy folding limb saw. And, I have matches, lighter, metal match, and tinder for starting fires. Plus, I always have a signaling mirror.

Re: Wilderness Skills [Re: Mountain Man] #130199
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I saw that iSat phone listed for about $500. Does that sound right?


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Re: Wilderness Skills [Re: Tom] #130222
01/19/11 04:22 PM
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Yes. And, the postpaid plans are reasonable.

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