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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: Tom] #130206
01/18/11 04:10 PM
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Therefore it's not possible that an increase in rainfall is a sign that Christ's coming is soon.

Of course it is. It's an evidence that the Spirit of God is being withdrawn from the earth and the four winds are about to be loosened.

The restraining Spirit of God is even now being withdrawn from the world. Hurricanes, storms, tempests, disasters by sea and by land, follow one another in quick succession. The signs thickening around us, telling of the near approach of the Son of God, are attributed to any other than the true cause. . . . {Mar 175.3}

Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: Rosangela] #130207
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These floods were the worst natural disaster of Brazil's history. The death toll up till now is 668.

Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: Rosangela] #130209
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Every time an Army heads out towards Moscow, there is a winter that causes the invading army to be defeated. Charles II, Napoleon Bonaparte, Hitler. If unusual weather is evidence of God acting on earth, does that mean that God defends Russia?


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21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: Rosangela] #130220
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Originally Posted By: Rosangela
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Therefore it's not possible that an increase in rainfall is a sign that Christ's coming is soon.

Of course it is. It's an evidence that the Spirit of God is being withdrawn from the earth and the four winds are about to be loosened.

The restraining Spirit of God is even now being withdrawn from the world. Hurricanes, storms, tempests, disasters by sea and by land, follow one another in quick succession. The signs thickening around us, telling of the near approach of the Son of God, are attributed to any other than the true cause. . . . {Mar 175.3}

Ellen wrote that over 100 years ago. Since then the weather around the world has been better and worse. Since the Fall of A&E the weather has been better and worse. Is there any reason to believe things are different now? Yes, of course, things have been bad lately. But are we to assume it means the Second Advent is more likely to happen now than at any time previously?

Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: Mountain Man] #130239
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In fact, the whole SDA end-time scenario needs to be re-examined. The events we point to in order to show the nearness of Chris's return may have been close to EGW's day, but they are a long way from today, and many events in the prophecies in Daniel, the Revelation, and the gospels were never fulfilled.


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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: JAK] #130241
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Do you suspect Ellen got some of it wrong in the Great Controversy?

Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: Mountain Man] #130256
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Since the Fall of A&E the weather has been better and worse. Is there any reason to believe things are different now?

Too many bad occurrences together. What I've been reading in the media is, "the worst in 30 years", "in 40 years", "in 70 years", and so forth. Not to mention incidents like that one in Brazil, whose probability of happening is of once in 350 years. Estimates are that it rained 250-300mm in 24 hours. (Numbers are: almost 800 dead, over 300 missing.)

Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: Mountain Man] #130257
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Originally Posted By: Ellen White from Maranatha, Page 25

The judgments of God are in the land. The wars and rumors of wars, the destruction by fire and flood, say clearly that the time of trouble, which is to increase until the end, is very near at hand. We have no time to lose. The world is stirred with the spirit of war. The prophecies of the eleventh of Daniel have almost reached their final fulfillment....

I wonder what she (EGW) means by that?


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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: Daryl] #130258
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"The worst in 30 years" means that 31 years ago, it was worse than what it is now.


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up? [Re: Daryl] #130259
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Rosangela, do you think the recent rash of bad occurrences around the world are harbingers indicating the Second Advent is more likely now than ever before?

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