Cephalopod,

Does the commandment in your Bible read something like this?

"For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the fifteenth day, wherefore the LORD blessed the fifteenth day and hallowed it."

Perhaps your textbook says something like this, but my Bible says nothing of the sort.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Is that seriously your answer to my last post?

If month 1 of the new year started out on day 1 and the Sabbath was said to fall on the 22nd day of that month"...
...And the next month the Sabbath just happened to fall on the exact same days as they did the previous month.
...What does that tell you?

What it tells me is that IF the Sabbath was on the 22nd day of THAT month....
...Then I know by default EVERY Sabbath in THAT month.
...22 - 7 = 15th day of that month was a Sabbath.
...15 - 7 = 8th day of that month was a Sabbath.
...22 + 7 = 29th day of that month was a Sabbath.

Duplicate two back to back months on a Gregorian or Julian Calendar where that is possible...
...Or show me where I made a mistake in reading the Bible.

The Bibles I have said that there are 6 working days to be followed by a 7th day Sabbath....
...The same Bible says that the day of the New Moon is NOT one of the 6 working days.



Is the Sabbath one of the 6 working days? Well, if the Sabbath isn't then neither is the New Moon day.

Need more proof the New Moon day wasn't one of the 6 working days?



So, what do you think that means? These folks Amos is speaking of are wishing that the New Moon day will hurry up and get over...
...So they can SELL their products.
...Buying and selling to a merchant is WORK.
...And that text just said the C,O.I. were NOT working on New Moon day.

I'm not saying New Moon day was a Sabbath, I'm just saying according to the so called Bible it clearly wasn't a work day.

Cephalopod,

Your reasoning assumes that there was only one cycle or set of sabbaths, and that all sabbaths were defined by the same math. That simply is not the case.

The weekly sabbath is the sabbath of the fourth commandment. There were other sabbaths, called "ceremonial sabbaths," and these are the sabbaths which were not defined by the week, but by other phenomena such as the moon. So in actual fact, you might see something like this:

(Lunar Days)
Day 2: Sabbath
Day 9: Sabbath
Day 15: Sabbath
Day 16: Sabbath
Day 23: Sabbath
etc.

That "double sabbath" was just a ceremonial sabbath which happened to fall on a Friday that year. The next year it might be a Sunday, a Wednesday, or whatever. Sometimes it would coincide with the seventh-day Sabbath, in which case you would have a "high Sabbath."

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Ceph, the seven day cycle has followed week after week since creation. If we observe the same weekly cycle Jesus did we cannot go wrong.

My premise is if two back to back months can be observed whereas the Sabbath landed on the same exact days of those two months....
...And this is impossible to duplicate on a Gregorian Calendar.
...It's established if "different math" fails to produce the same answer.
...The praxis is proven.



Yes, 'every' Passover coincided with a 14th / 15th Nisan....
...Because, just as in the 1st month we read about in Exodus.
...The new month started with day "1".

New Moon day ( day 1 ), 2nd day (1st working day), 3rd day (2nd working day), 4th day (3rd working day), 5th day (4th working day), 6th day (5th working day). 7th day (6th working day) & 8th day, which IS the 7th day that follows 6 working days.

The New Moon would be observed, the following day would be 'New Moon Day'....
...A day NO WORK was done ( see the Scripture I quoted ) 6 days for work followed by the "seventh day Sabbath". Ironically THIS is exactly how the C.O.I. marched around Jericho for 7 literal days w/out violating the Sabbath.



That's NOT how the lunisolar calendar works according to the 1st two months of Exodus...



I've bought the software which imposes the lunar calendar into the Gregorian....
...Using the Millerite / Incarnation of Elijah calendation which established the DOA on 22 October 1844.
...Passover for 31 A.D did NOT and COULD NOT coincide with a Gregorian Friday.
...Yet it DOES coincide with the 6th day of the week, 14 Nisan on a lunisolar Calendar.
...And without exception it does the same thing EVERY year.

Cephalopod, I'm also having troubles with understanding your math. The only way it can make sense is if you are saying Sabbaths are not 7 days apart. Which would mean they are not the seventh day. It sounds like you suggest that there are 6 work days followed by a variable number of other days.

An interesting question would be, how does it fit in with creation week?

That's a lunar calendar but NOT the Biblical lunisolar calendar...
...That calendar shows "conjunction" as "new moon".
...The calendar Moses used understood the 1st observed sliver of moon AFTER conjunction as "New Moon".
...If the New Moon sliver was observed on May 9 the following day would be "New Moon Day".

Look at the overlay of the lunisolar on the Gregorian.

Hi Cephalopod, If you find extra sabbaths that you enjoy, i do not see why that would effect me. i get a blessing from the seventh-day sabbath, and i wish to continue doing so. i used to make a rule that if a six year old kid cannot understand a doctrine, it is not necessary for my salvation. When i was seven and eight years old, i enjoyed the story of the Image of Daniel Two, and the great rock striking it on the feet. When i was seven and eight years old, my Mom had read me from an Adventist Bible story book by Adelaide Bee Evans, called, EASY STEPS & MEN OF MIGHT. i am a little Vegemite with a very small brain!!!! i will read the bible passages coz i enjoy them, but so far you are way above my head, Cephalopod. Sorry mate.
God bless, johannes.

Let's turn that around a bit and pretend that I said that to you only exchanging Sunday for Sabbath...
...You were witnessing to me and I'm a Sunday keeper.
...Would you humm off into the sunset at peace with that answer?
...Or would you ask me to look at the evidence?




That's just it - the Lunisolar calendar a 6 year old could understand.....
...It's a first grade concept.
...Contrasted with the rules of the Gregorian.

Just go back and read my summary of the first two months of the Exodus from Egypt...
...It's 8 + 7 math ONLY and I'm telling you it can't be duplicated on the Gregorian.
...Our denomination was up front about this YEARS ago!



The reason it's unanswerable is simply because the calendar used to justify and support our 2300 day prophetic truth...
...PROVES that the Sabbath on Passover in 31 A.D. was NOT a Gregorian Saturday.
...This isn't a joke and simply saying I'm used to Saturn's day so that's good enough for me is hardly in keeping the the SDA search for truth.