No, I'm asking, are you saying Catholics changed the Bible, but they themselves use the KJV?

Or are you saying Catholics didn't change the Bible?

What about the dead sea scrolls? How do they compare on this text?

Without question the Catholics have made changes to the Bible. Ellen White tells us as much, and the Catholics themselves will tell you.

Regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls, I learned recently that there was some possible delay in releasing the trove of scrolls on account of not knowing how to explain them. It is possible that they were first tampered with--at least to add some that agreed more with the Alexandrian line. I'm still trying to research this to see if it is factual.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

I come from a Catholic background and I can assure you that the Catholic theologians and the overwhelming majority of the members do not use the KJV especially for doctrinal issues.

k: That's from a Catholic Bible, "New American Bible".
R: It is from the King James....
R: I can assure you that the Catholic theologians and the overwhelming majority of the members do not use the KJV

Is the New American Bible from the King James or isn't it?

The facts speak for themselves........

"The American Standard Version is rooted in the work that was done with the Revised Version (RV)....

The Revised Version (or English Revised Version) of the Bible is a late 19th-century British revision of the King James Version of 1611. It was the first and remains the only officially authorized and recognized revision of the King James Bible. The work was entrusted to over 50 scholars from various denominations in Britain. American scholars were invited to cooperate, by correspondence.[1] The New Testament was published in 1881, the Old Testament in 1885, and the Apocrypha in 1894.[1] The best known of the translation committee members were Brooke Foss Westcott and Fenton John Anthony Hort; their fiercest critic of that period was John William Burgon."

Rick, if you were responding to my comment, and thought "New American Bible" was the same as "The American Standard Version" without explaining why it's the same, you kind of blew your credibility with me regarding paying attention to details. Sorry.

Sorry...here is the correct one..'The New American Bible (NAB) is a Catholic Bible translation first published in 1970. It had its beginnings in the Confraternity Bible, which began to be translated from the original languages in 1948.

It was specifically translated into English by the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine under the liturgical principles and reforms of the Second Vatican Council (1962–1965).'

Ok.....?

From the SDA commentary:

Textual evidence attests the omission of the passage "in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth." The resultant reading of vs. 7, 8 is as follows: "For there are three that bear record, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." The passage as given in the KJV is in no Greek MS earlier than the 15th and 16th centuries. The disputed words found their way into the KJV by way of the Greek text of Erasmus. It is said that Erasmus offered to include the disputed words in his Greek Testament if he were shown even one Greek MS that contained them. A library in Dublin produced such a MS (known as 34), and Erasmus included the passage in his text. It is now believed that the later editions of the Vulgate acquired the passage by the mistake of a scribe who included an exegetical marginal comment in the Bible text that he was copying. The disputed words have been widely used in support of the doctrine of the Trinity, but, in view of such overwhelming evidence against their authenticity, their support is valueless and should not be used. In spite of their appearance in the Vulgate A Catholic commentary on Holy Scripture freely admits regarding these words: "It is now generally held that this passage, called the Comma Johanneum, is a gloss that crept into the text of the Old Latin and Vulgate at an early date, but found its way into the Greek text only in the 15th and 16th centuries".

Unfortunately, the SDA Commentary (the Ellen White portions excluded) is not always a credible source of information. Nevertheless, the doctrine of the trinity is easily supported without the Comma Johanneum.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.