Imagine me walking down the street and the following scene happening:

Me: I have good news!

Joe on the street: I could use some good news.

Me: I've been studying the book of Daniel and came across some exciting news for these last days!

Joe: I find the Bible to be ancient history.

Me: Oh no! It tells about the future and what's going to happen to us. Our messenger, Ellen White says that we should "read and study the twelfth chapter of Daniel. It is a warning that we shall all need to understand before the time of the end.--15MR 228 (1903). {LDE 15.4}".

Joe: I've heard she's non-relevant to our times, too.

Me: Oh, but it is important information for our times. We need to understand this. See. Chapter 12 talks about 1260 days. They started in 538 AD and ended in 1798.

Joe: Uh, dude, 1798 is like.... past history.

Me: (Ignoring his comment) And not only are there 1260 days in the chapter we need to study, but there are 1290 days and 1335 days which ended in 1843. Which was a very important year because it was a mistake. The 2300 days actually ended in 1844.

Joe: (starting to back away) Uhmmm....

Me: Don't you see how relevant and what a warning this to our future and how important it is for us to understand this?

Long time is a day for a year. For this time to be no longer it is no longer a day for a year. The problem that EGW was correcting was that fanatics were trying to find different starting and end dates for the 2300-years.

She thus made it clear that the 2300-years were from 457 BC to 1843 and that God wanted that date as it was.

She then states that the same prophecies that prove 1843 prove 1844. Thus there is a second fulfillment of the 2300-years with one start date - 2 end dates.

But there is not another 2300-years. That does not however mean that there cannot be another 2300-literal days in the endtime that we shall recognize after it is fulfilled.

The term prophetic time in the Spirit of prophecy is used almost exclusively to mean the day and hour of Christ's Advent. After the preaching of Christ's Advent in 1842 that said Jesus would return in 1843, it was discovered that He would not return util 1844.

To say"there can be no definite tracing of the prophetic time" is to say there can be no definite tracing of the time of Christ's advent after 1844. This is studied out in detail in the first three posts in this thread.

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When we understand that EGW was telling us that Daniel and Revelation are to stand in their lot in our day, we can be sure that they apply to our day more than to 1798 - 1844.

In case I did not post it here, the 1260. 1290, & 1335-days of Daniel 12 were all fulfilled 17 May 2005.

There is a blessing to those who understand it.

It is also interesting that it will soon be 2300-days since 17 May 2005. They will end a few weeks before Yom Kippur 2011. Unlike Yom Kippur of 1844 that was on 22 October 1844, it will be 7 October this year.

I take it to mean it reaches to 1844 - not that it began in 1842. She is definitely addressing the 2300 days.

The problem is that we take it differently than EGW means it.

Do a study of "Prophetic time" in EGW's writings and you will see that she almost always links it to the date of Christ's Advent or very near her comment there is a statement about the time of Christ's coming or a date that is linked to Christ's coming like 1842-1844.And 1844 was the end of the 2300-years. so much of her effort is to explain why date setting for another date after 1844 is unsound.

The first 3 posts on this thread examine her most complete statement that clarifies what she means by the term "prophetic time".. She contrasts the world's position that lumps all prophetic time together with "our Position" that is not of ALL PROPHETIC TIME.

What if we substitute in 2005 for 1798.
Do you think Joe's reaction would be much different?

1) The decree to rebuild Jerusalem was repeated
(Jerusalem being teaching of peace) 31 May 1998

2) the counterfeit endtime prince of the covenant was anointed on the very day this prophecy indicated in Daniel 9 - 20 January 2001. He was put in office with a protestant mandate to take America back to God. Thus our two founding principles Republicanism and Protestantism met in this man and he perverted these founding principles into something that they were not.

3) The prince failed on 1 September 2001

4) The prince confirmed the covenant with many for one week 17-23 September 2001

5) In the midst of the week 20 September 2001 the prince set up the abomination that makes desolate. He addressed congress and declared the beliefs of Islam to be good. Islam believes that they can go to heaven without the sacrifice of Jesus. Thus the prince of the covenant did away with the Sacrifice and the oblation, which is to apply the sacrifice to the individual to receive the blessing provided by the sacrifice.

6) The prince failed 1 September 2001. That ended one time period and the time period, the 1290-days started the next day 2 September 2001 and it ends 2 April 2005. "Pope John-Paul II’s death came exactly 1290-days after 9/02/01."

That is significant because Daniel speaks of the DAILY which is from a word that means "continual" And in Revelation 13 the pope that receives a deadly wound that is healed is to continue 42-months. Thus Pope John-Paul II continued 42-months from 9/11/01 to 4/2/05 and he continued 1290-days from 9/2/01 to 4/2/05.

7) From 9/2/01 to 17 May 2005 is 1335-days. On that day a British intelligence officer leaked a secret report about the counterfeit prince of the covenant that detailed how he planned the war against Iraq before telling Congress. The report proved that he lied to Congress to take America to war as he lied to Congress when he said that the beliefs of Muslims are good when he did away with Christ's Sacrifice and the oblation.

8) Do the math. From 17 May 2005 - 2300-days ends a few weeks before the day of Atonement 7 October 2011.

The last events will be rapid ones.

The sequence in Daniel 11:41-44 states trouble in Egypt, Ethiopia, and Libya. The government changed in Egypt April 2011. The government changed in Southern Sudan which in ancient times was part of Ethiopia. And what about Libya? Today's news?

The same passage says the Edom, Moab, and Ammom will be spared. Jordan had a little skirmish and the king changed the prime minister and made some concessions and nipped it in the bud.

Then Daniel 12 transitions to a time of trouble like the world has never known. immediately after the for mentioned sequence the American Congress and president got into gridlock. Then the stock market fell 2000 points in 2 weeks. They report that it is gaining 300 points, and has had 6 days of gains because it was oversold, etc.

The fact is that it was in the 14000 range and is now in the 11000 range. The proverbial frog is in the pot and getting used to the temp as it heads toward boiling. And the frog states that the prophecy has not reached the time when we should sell off and put god's money into His work. They will hang onto it a little longer so that they can live the good life a little longer and then when the rapid events takes them unawares, they won't have a good account of their stewardship to give to the Lord.

Those that can't discern what voice to listen to in this hour will be in mortal danger.

All this and the biblical proof texts are in Echoes's of Doomsday. http://stores.lulu.com/DanielsRevelation

I am sorry for the delay getting back to you and Daryl.

I have been checking to see if there was any activity on my watched list, but I missed these.

After reading my reply to Daryl's questions, tell me what the man on the street would think about 1798, 2005 and now.
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