If Jesus literally died the second death - why is He alive and well in heaven?

If the first death satisfies justice - why the second resurrection and second death?

Jesus satisfied the just and loving demands of law and justice before He died:

"If Jesus literally died the second death - why is He alive and well in heaven?"

To die the second death is to die cut off from God with no hope of restoration. "It was the burden of sin, the sense of its terrible enormity, of its separation of the soul from God - it was this that broke the heart of the Son of God." SC 10.
The experience of the second death is to die alienated from God without any hope of return.
If Christ did not experience that, then He did not pay the wages of sin.
The fact that Christ is living now is no proof that He did not die that death, "even the death of the cross," the death of one cursed of God, (my mind rebels at the thought) but only a proof of the resurrection. Once a person dies they have no experience,
they don't actually experience eternity separated from God. The only experience the sinner has is having a hopeless death.

Jesus "tasted" and conquered the second death. He did more than die - He lived through it. See quote above.

I am just wondering why the question was asked,
"If the first death satisfies justice - why the second resurrection and second death?" since I have tried to stress
that it was the second death that Jesus experienced.

"It was not physical suffering that so quickly ended the life of Christ upon the cross. It was the crushing weight of the sins of the world, that broke his heart. The Father's glory and sustaining presence had left Him; it was this that forced from his lips the anguished cry, "My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" {BEcho, August 15, 1892 par. 13}

You wrote - "If I do not accept Christs death for me, then I have to pay the wages of sin, death myself. In both cases justice is served." Which death serves justice if you refuse to accept Christ? If not the first death, why not?

As all die as a consequence or result of sinning, whether repentant or not repentant, it is the 2nd death that pays the penalty for sin, be it our own 2nd death, or Christ's 2nd death on our behalf in which He paid the penalty for our sin.

So you are saying that it is because of your choice you are saved? When you’ll “be in heaven” you can boast that you’ve made it because you chose Christ whereas the other 90% of the population is not because they simply didn’t chose Him. So salvation hinges on your choice. Right? And according to your definition of justice, this is very good.

The law says “An eye for an eye” (Ex. 21:24) -- meaning the judgment imposed by the judge must always fit the crime--no more, no less—though monetary compensation could be made as the equivalent of an eye. The law makes justice the first priority with the purpose (1) to correct the sinner and (2) restore the broken relationship with his victim by RESTITUTION by imposing the law to the offender. So if you steal one dollar, you got to pay two dollars back to the victim(Ex. 21:24). This is Justice.

However, we discards what the law says and replace it with our own ideas saying that stealing even one dollar is punishable by burning/torture in the hell fire until totally anihaliated – your burning & torturing time is in proportion to the amount of your sins.

That is not divine justice as defined in the law. That is only purposeless punishment imposed by carnally-minded men who claim to know better than God the true meaning of justice.

The Wages of Sin is Death
Rom 5 :12 “ Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because (hos) all sinned. “

It seems to say above that through Adam, sin entered the world—because he was the first sinner. And then death came as a result of sin. Then, as Adam begat children, this death (mortality) spread to them as well—” because all sinned. ”

This incorrect translation leaves the impression all became mortal because they sinned. So this implies that if they hadn’t sinned, they wouldn’t be mortal. This is incorrect, and it is not what Paul was actually saying.

Concordant Literal Version(CLV) “CLV Ro 5:12 Therefore, even as through one humanman sin entered into the world, and through sin death, and thus death passed through into all =mankind, on (eph) which (hos) all sinned--

The Greek eph hos, means “on which” which equal to “therefore” and doesn’t mean because. So the text is actually saying….”mortality was passed onto all mankind therefore they have all sinned.” In another word, mankind sinned because they are mortal. So mortality is their fatal flaw.


The order of events is this :
1. Adam was created mortal(death-able) Only when God fully indwells in him that man is immortal.
2. Adam sinned = He lost God’s Glory that comes when God fully indwell, therefore Adam revert back to his created mortality state(death-ableness)
3. Thus(eph hos), all His offsprings sinnned because they are mortal(death-able)


So the wages of sin is death, it is not because we sinned that we became mortal. We were already mortal and created mortal from the beginning. DEath is is the natural process of our created state when we do not have the only ONE that has immortality fully dwelling in us. Sinned resulted that we lost God's Glory. It is in that sense that the wages of sin is DEATH.

Here we're talking about the FIRST DEATH, not the second. All man today(except of 2 men) and in the pass has died the FIRST DEATH because we all have not the full indwelling Spirit of God in us. Even Moses died the FIRST DEATH(the wages of sin). And Even Jesus died the FIRST DEATH(He was made mortal(death-able)) and He took the sins of us all, so He may swallow death(mortality) on the cross).


1C 15:54 “ So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal (thnetos, liable to die) shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. ”


It is Christ’s victory/Glory which swallows up death. When Christ will fully indwell in us, his glory will swallow up our mortal state(death). For Adam before he lost God’s glory, it was Christ’s glory that swallowed up death(Adam’s created mortality state) then. Only at His second coming the firstfruits will be the first to have the full indwelling of Christ’s glory in them again as it was with Adam. Until then, because God imposes this on us all, we are unclothed of His glory and remain mortal.


2C 5:4 For we that are in [this] tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.