Yes, I dont get it either..

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People like W. W. Prescott and Willie White (and I don't remember for sure but maybe even Mrs. White) were critical of his work (she was at least critical of some people's ideas that he latched on to and began preaching, they excused her messages to them as her getting messages from Willie instead of the Lord). Wilkinson used texts in the Bible against Samuel's sons as the same thing happening with Willie White.

Then when he was an administrator of one of our colleges he apperently did find a letter from the vatican to one of the religion professors with instructions on what to teach to attack our church, and because of this he felt that the whole church was filled with Catholic spys and would not take redirection from people like White, Prescott and other church leaders. His ideas are still very influentual among us today.

According to Graham Maxwell, Wilkinson's strictness ended up that non of his children wanted anything to do with God as they grew up, and this caused the elderly Wilkerson to re-evaluate his life and feel he was wrong and repented of his views. However his followers continue to support those views.

We were pleased to meet here our old friends of the cause whose acquaintance we made thirty years before. Our much esteemed Brother Hastings was as deeply interested in the truth as ever. We were pleased to meet Sister Temple, and Sister Collins of Dartmouth, Mass., and Brother and Sister Wilkinson, at whose house we were entertained during our first labors in connection with the third angel's message. {LS 237.3}

July 28, accompanied by our daughter, Mrs. Emma White, and Edith Donaldson, we left Oakland for the East. We arrived in Sacramento the same day and were met by Brother and Sister Wilkinson, who gave us a hearty welcome and took us to their home, where we were kindly entertained during our stay. According to appointment, I spoke Sunday. The house was well filled with an attentive congregation, and the Lord gave me freedom in speaking to them from His word. Monday we again took the cars, stopping at Reno, Nevada, where we had an appointment to speak Tuesday evening in the tent in which Elder Loughborough was giving a course of lectures. I spoke with freedom to about four hundred attentive hearers, on the words of John: "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God." {4T 296.2}

We were pleased to meet here our old friends of the cause whose acquaintance we made thirty years ago. Our much-esteemed Brother Hastings is as deeply interested in the truth today as he was then. We were pleased to meet Sister Temple, and Sister Collins of Dartmouth, Massachusetts, and Brother and Sister Wilkinson, at whose house we were entertained more than thirty years ago. The pilgrimage of some of these dear ones may close erelong; but if faithful unto the end, they will receive a crown of life. {4T 300.2}

She writes under date of July 29: "We arrived at Sacramento yesterday, and were met by Brother and Sister Wilkinson, who gave us a hearty welcome and took us to their home, where we were kindly entertained during our stay. Last night (Sunday) I spoke according to appointment. The house was well filled with an attentive congregation, and the Lord gave me freedom in speaking to them from his word. On Monday we visited the Capitol, under the guidance of Brother and Sister Wilkinson and spent some time looking through the State library, art collections and cabinets of mineral and metallurgical specimens. We were much interested in what we saw, and would have enjoyed the privilege of remaining longer in the city to farther inspect these valuable collections of the State. But we were obliged to push on the same day, in order to meet my appointment at Reno." {ST, August 15, 1878 par. 2}

So I have one question for you GC, does it agree with the rest of scripture or disagree?

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

We were pleased to meet here our old friends of the cause whose acquaintance we made thirty years before. Our much esteemed Brother Hastings was as deeply interested in the truth as ever. We were pleased to meet Sister Temple, and Sister Collins of Dartmouth, Mass., and Brother and Sister Wilkinson, at whose house we were entertained during our first labors in connection with the third angel's message. {LS 237.3}

July 28, accompanied by our daughter, Mrs. Emma White, and Edith Donaldson, we left Oakland for the East. We arrived in Sacramento the same day and were met by Brother and Sister Wilkinson, who gave us a hearty welcome and took us to their home, where we were kindly entertained during our stay. According to appointment, I spoke Sunday. The house was well filled with an attentive congregation, and the Lord gave me freedom in speaking to them from His word. Monday we again took the cars, stopping at Reno, Nevada, where we had an appointment to speak Tuesday evening in the tent in which Elder Loughborough was giving a course of lectures. I spoke with freedom to about four hundred attentive hearers, on the words of John: "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God." {4T 296.2}

We were pleased to meet here our old friends of the cause whose acquaintance we made thirty years ago. Our much-esteemed Brother Hastings is as deeply interested in the truth today as he was then. We were pleased to meet Sister Temple, and Sister Collins of Dartmouth, Massachusetts, and Brother and Sister Wilkinson, at whose house we were entertained more than thirty years ago. The pilgrimage of some of these dear ones may close erelong; but if faithful unto the end, they will receive a crown of life. {4T 300.2}

She writes under date of July 29: "We arrived at Sacramento yesterday, and were met by Brother and Sister Wilkinson, who gave us a hearty welcome and took us to their home, where we were kindly entertained during our stay. Last night (Sunday) I spoke according to appointment. The house was well filled with an attentive congregation, and the Lord gave me freedom in speaking to them from his word. On Monday we visited the Capitol, under the guidance of Brother and Sister Wilkinson and spent some time looking through the State library, art collections and cabinets of mineral and metallurgical specimens. We were much interested in what we saw, and would have enjoyed the privilege of remaining longer in the city to farther inspect these valuable collections of the State. But we were obliged to push on the same day, in order to meet my appointment at Reno." {ST, August 15, 1878 par. 2}

Just so we're clear, my own doctrine is based on the Bible, not the 27/28 FB. Ellen White never would have approved of the FB book, as she herself stated clearly that our church was to have no creed but the Bible.

Why do I start with that preface? because one of the most easily-recognized changes in doctrine has taken place with the doctrine of fasting, which is not counted among our 28 FB. The newer versions go so far as to remove entire verses or portions of verses just to make Christ and the Bible give a different message than that of fasting.

Try proving the need to fast from an NIV New Testament (or any non-textus-receptus translation). You will find the references to historical events, such as Jesus' fast in the wilderness, but not His explicit statement that "this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting," which tells us we must fast in order to accomplish certain things.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

But Rick, the KJV also contains doctrinal/theological mistakes, as I mentioned in the case of Luke 23:43 and the translation of ta hagia in Hebrews.

So more is better? I understand what you're saying, but how do we know the Textus Receptus translates a specific verse correctly?
What about the dead sea scrolls? How do they enter in?

The concepts of the above post I must reject in their entirety until proven otherwise. First of all, some of it is simply incorrect. Most of it is conjecture or hearsay, which is tantamount to gossip. None of it is supported with textual evidence. Where did you find these concepts, Kevin?

Here's some textual evidence that contradicts the idea inserted above that Mrs. White would have opposed Wilkinson. The following statements are the full sum of records returned from the Ellen White CD on all of her writings including the word "Wilkinson." There are just four records.



Not one of them is anything but warm, positive, and friendly toward the Wilkinsons.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

So I have one question for you GC, does it agree with the rest of scripture or disagree?

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

[If you look at the first chapter of John, it is clear that the Word is equal to God. The Father is God, of course, too. So there is no problem with them being one. In fact, the only question with this verse might be whether or not the Holy Ghost is equal to God. But that is clear from other scriptures as well, including Genesis chapter 1 and many other places. In fact, "Holy Ghost," "Holy Spirit," and "Spirit of God" are all synonyms. Jesus said, furthermore, that God is a spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

I therefore find the text in perfect harmony to both the other writings of John and to those of the entire Bible.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.