No, the HS is "the Spirit in the fulness of the Godhead".

This appears to be not far from the Monkey King's transformations (for the Buddhist perspective). Are you saying that there is really only one God, but that He takes three different forms?
It looks to me like he's saying that each of the members of the Godhead are 100% of God, or something like an alias to the same substance.

I must say here, I disagree, and I would seriously question the logic and support for such a view.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

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Three forms that 'he, the one God', takes? No, 'one God in three forms' - or persons - a divine entity or being: no. That phrase is an unhelpful doctrinal formula, and is it really reflecting Bible teaching? The oneness of God is because of one divine nature, for how can a triune God, a group, be the personal, individual God we know who gave us his Son?

The Father is God, as the bible says:
Those highlights distinguish both their roles side by side and their relation, Jesus being the Son of God.

I'm not offended by your disagreement, GC, as the question is whether the doctrine of the trinity is compatible with the belief in the Godhead - to which I say no while we are told it most certainly is. Now, remember, we are saved, in the final analysis, by knowing God the Father and Jesus whom he has sent (Jn 17:3), not by endorsing a formulated definition of God. Belonging to the remnant movement also helps, today.

....Aliases? Interchangeable forms, all at once or only one at a time? That sounds modalistic, and not what I believe.

"100% of God": that would be each taking up all the being of God..., so that the triune God's entire "one God" 'capacity' would be taken up completely really by only one of them at a time? I think I can conceptualise what you're suggesting I'm talking about,....but did I get it?

No, is the answer.

Col 1 is amazing! We all know v.15-18 very well. What about v.19?
This is repeated in Col 2:9, but chapter one brings the Father into the picture. Isn't the messsage of the whole Bible that God the Father is the infinite God personally, and in his Son is the nature of infinite divinity as the only begotten of God but he is not the Father personally since he is a distinct individual beside God his Father. Col 1:19 cannot refer only to the Son of God on earth, given what else Colossians chapter one says, let alone the rest of the Bible.

The Spirit of God is, naturally, the infinite Spirit of the deity, Godhead, divine nature possessed by the Father and rightfully, naturally possessed also by his Son - Lucifer must have been blinded by pride from seeing that, for he challenged and "obscured" Christ's authority & supremacy over the angels as God's Son! It represents them to their intelligent creation as well as belonging to them, naturally. Manifesting their presence to us, in us (Jn 14:23), is when we hear him, the Spirit, speak of Christ, etc. That's personality if ever there was God's personal presence with us by grace & faith, by his Spirit indwelling us. Btw, making the Spirit more than God's omnipresence within us - so, making him a real person like them - takes away God and Christ's own personal individuality in heaven, did you know?

In Father & Son each is the fulness of the Godhead bodily: that's Biblical. There's no three persons contained in one divine entity called the triune God: doesn't fit, does it?

Colin,

I guess the "Johannine Comma" is likely becoming a magnet for this same discussion. I just posted something in that thread that might also apply to your post above.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

There is a massive disconnect relative to this topic because new meanings have been poured into established terms...
...This is a classic example of such.

The Trinity Doctrine identifies ONE God that is without parts - a Nature, Substance or essence...
...This "Substance" is beyond understanding in an infinite sense.
...There are Three distinct Persons who equally possess this ONE Substance ( Father, Son & Holy Spirit ).

In Trinitarian Theology the word "Person" identifies the relationship each member of the Trinity has with each other...
...It does not equate to "PERSONALITY" as identified by Sister White or the Pioneers.

When Sock Puppet says, 'Personality of God' that term explicitly means...
...That God has a "BODY of FLESH" and God is ONLY the Father.
...This can be demonstrated ad nauseum in all our publications throughout sock puppets' life.
...And prior to her exposure in the core grouping of those that became the Pioneers of the SDA faith.

Make no mistake in understanding that 'The Personality of God' was a fundamental Doctrine...
...For on it stand everthing distinctive within the SDA faith.
...The Sanctuary teaching / state of the dead & act of Salvation itself ALL rest on God having a body.


Review and Herald October 8, 1903
OF late the question has repeatedly come to me, Does it make any real difference whether we believe in the personality of God, as long as we believe in God? My answer invariably is, It depends altogether upon the standpoint from which we view it. If from the Spiritualist's, -the Christian Scientist's, the Universalist's, or if from the standpoint of any other " ist" or " ism," it makes but little or no difference. But from the standpoint of Seventh-day Adventists it makes all the difference in the world. No man who is a Seventh-day Adventist can understandingly take that position; neither can 'a Seventh-day Adventist 'hold that position for a moment. In it is involved a denial of the " Father and the Son," the law of Moses, the prophets, the psalms, the holy angels, the personality of the devil, and all that is according to sound doctrine.
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH19031008-V80-40__B.pdf#view=fit

Sock Puppet was explicit when God said through her to Dr. Kellogg;

"You are not definitely clear on the personality of God, which is everything to us as a people. You have virtually destroyed the Lord God Himself".--Letter 300, 1903. {5BIO 292.4}

Kellogg had stated that He had come to believe in the Trinity and as a requirement of that Doctrine...
...Made the theological affirmation that God was ALSO the Holy Spirit.
...This destroyed the "Personality of God".
...Because the Adventist faith taught God was a literal Person with a literal dwelling place.

Most Adventists are shocked to learn that Ellen White and EVERY Pioneer were Anthropomorhites...
...This is absolutely indisputable fact.
...Which can be confirmed by simply reading our denominational publications.
...And date checking explicit statements made by Sock Puppet.


The Pioneers were most vocal in repudiating that section of the Creeds which reject God has a body...
...And they took special care to 1st mention the Methodist Creedal statements.
...Prior to moving on in repudiating the other Denominations.

See, 'The Personality of God'.
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH18780905-V52-11__B.pdf#search=%22 god has a body %22&view=fit


http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH18780912-V52-12__B.pdf#search=%22 god has a body %22&view=fit


http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/BR/BR1884__B/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=152

http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/BTS/BTS19061001-V05-05__C/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=9


"Is the Soul Immortal" page 1
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH18550918-V07-06__B/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=1


"Moral Image and Moral Likeness" page 4
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH18600105-V15-07__B/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=4


"Spiritualism as it is" ( claims saying God w/out a body = spiritualism ).
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH18650711-V26-06__B/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=4


"God has literal eyes and ears and every member, part and ORGAN of a perfect man"
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH18900902-V67-34__B/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=4


"God is a literal Person, page 8"
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH18900902-V67-34__B/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=4

"God is a literal Person who dwells in heaven and Christ is with God there.
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH18900902-V67-34__B/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=4


There is a slew more I can URL link but I'm fairly sure anyone can get the idea...
...The God of the Pioneers and Ellen White was the Father.
...And they believed to the last person that the Father had a body.

Anyone who promulgated that "GOD" was a simple infinite substance that three distinct Persons possessed...
...Was promulgating "SPIRITUALISM" or "PANTHEISM", period.
...Because that belief "DESTROYED THE PERSONALITY ( body ) of God.
...Who was understood to be the ONLY WISE God.