Regarding the Revelation 12 passage:



I don't how you could argue from this that the earth existed before creation week.

Your first quote says:



This implies the earth did not exist ("anticipated creation of the earth ...").

So I'm not following your train of thought.

Also, if you think the earth was "recreated," why would you think it was surrounded by our galaxy? Wouldn't it make sense that the earth was created at the same time the galaxy was?

Also there are other worlds besides our own, with beings on them that already existed. These worlds must have already existed.

That would only make sense for stars which are exactly 6,000 light years away. What's your thinking here?

Regarding the death of stars, there is other evidence than photographs.

If I'm understanding you correctly, it is your opinion that stars could not have died, so any evidence that stars have died must be incorrect? Have I understood you correctly? Is so, why do you feel this way?

Sounds like the pitcher is always full in heaven.

Good angels wept to hear the words of Satan and his exulting boasts. God declared that the rebellious should remain in heaven no longer. Their high and happy state had been held upon condition of obedience to the law which God had given to govern the high order of intelligences. But no provision had been made to save those who should venture to transgress His law. Satan grew bold in his rebellion, and expressed his contempt of the Creator's law. This Satan could not bear. He claimed that angels needed no law but should be left free to follow their own will, which would ever guide them right; that law was a restriction of their liberty; and that to abolish law was one great object of his standing as he did. The condition of the angels, he thought, needed improvement. Not so the mind of God, who had made laws and exalted them equal to Himself. The happiness of the angelic host consisted in their perfect obedience to law. Each had his special work assigned him, and until Satan rebelled, there had been perfect order and harmonious action in heaven. {SR 18.2}

Then there was war in heaven. The Son of God, the Prince of heaven, and His loyal angels engaged in conflict with the archrebel and those who united with him. The Son of God and true, loyal angels prevailed; and Satan and his sympathizers were expelled from heaven. All the heavenly host acknowledged and adored the God of justice. Not a taint of rebellion was left in heaven. All was again peaceful and harmonious as before. Angels in heaven mourned the fate of those who had been their companions in happiness and bliss. Their loss was felt in heaven. {SR 19.1}

The Father consulted His Son in regard to at once carrying out their purpose to make man to inhabit the earth. He would place man upon probation to test his loyalty before he could be rendered eternally secure. If he endured the test wherewith God saw fit to prove him, he should eventually be equal with the angels. He was to have the favor of God, and he was to converse with angels, and they with him. He did not see fit to place them beyond the power of disobedience. {SR 19.2}

1. Evil angels rebelled in heaven.
2. They were "cast out into the earth".
3. Jesus created mankind "to inhabit the earth".


The earth in its void, formless, water-covered state existed before the first day of creation week.