James, do you agree with this post?


Or, do you think more is needed?

As a minister to the youth, I know the pressure to conform to what the youth do. But if we allow ourselves to be swayed to conform to worldly dress while working for Christ in any given situation we lower the standards.

I used to be a professional world class rock musician. I'm sure you can relate to the pressure I have felt to be what others want me to be for the modernization of the church. But I have been thoroughly convicted that what we listen to and our appearance is very important to our Father when we stand at the pulpit for ANY reason. Especially the ones that represent biblical standards. If you have not been so convicted, then I wonder.

For example, you were at camp meeting correct? Do you know what camp meeting represents? It is a symbolic gesture to understand the feast of Tabernacles. God's people have been living on fallen planet earth for 6 thousand years and are about to go home. Should we be relaxed in our standards just before the fulfillment of this symbolic feast? Did the high priest come to the feast in flip flops?

If you felt over dressed then good for you. But for you to say, the way they looked made you 'feel over dressed', this shows who you listen to.

The Great Controversy is perfect when used in conjunction with the bible. With this in mind think about this...

The Great Controversy was written linearly correct? Meaning from just after the first coming, to the second coming of Christ, correct?

OK, now look at this. Chapter 38 is called the final Warning. It begins by Quoting Rev 18 "Babylon is fallen and become inhabited by demons", then it talks about the dead, including the apostles, appearing to come back from the grave to deceive the world. She is very clear that we need to be prepared for THIS delusion for it will lead to world wide apostasy in making of no effect the Sabbath.

THEN in Chapter 39, called the "Time of trouble", begins with the close of probation. Then it talks about Satan appearing as Jesus trying to deceive the elect, AFTER PROBATION ENDS!!!

Well who is it that Satan is appearing as when coming as an angel of light (messenger from God)? This part (chapter 38) is obviously before probation closes, and in Early Writings Mrs White saw that satan would appear as a "stately fair person, that the whole world looks up to in reverence". Who else fits this worldly image but the pope, especially when taken into context with all the other end time elements like the fact that the pope is "the son of Perdition" and this apparition leads the whole world with lightning speed to perdition? And this is written throughout the Spirit of Prophecy in chapters about the dead coming back to deceive the elect.

You have to look at the GC as the linear framework or grid to help determine if our comprehension of the Bible is accurate, and you have to know where to look to fill in the blanks. Why else would God give all the material that is not included in the Great Controversy? There are important clues included in the fabric of all the messages when seen in conjunction with the GC that can only be seen when looking at the whole of her writings as a linear account built off the foundation of the bible, mapped out by the Great Controversy.

Peace

James, thank you for sharing. You've given me food for thought.

The author of The Great Controversy would be dismayed by such a claim, because it misrepresents her life's work.

Instead she said that all who would overcome would be close students of the Scriptures.
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The 3 angels messages are proclaimed by "close students of scripture" so both of you are correct.

check this out;

"This prophecy refers not only to the enmity between Christ and Satan, but also to the enmity that exists between the world and the followers of the world’s Redeemer. Christ was the special one who should bruise the head of the serpent; but the prophecy also includes all those who shall overcome the enemy by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony. In the words addressed to the serpent is a delineation of the great, un-ended conflict that has been waging in the world from the beginning of sin. The earth is the battle field for the conflict, and the result of the conflict, while it brings temporal loss upon the followers of Christ, will bring eternal ruin upon Satan, evil angels, and evil men, who unite with the enemy in the controversy against Christ. {ST July 11, 1895, par. 4}

What is scripture? It is the word of the Lord given through men in His Spirit, correct? When the Spirit of truth illuminates the scriptures, nothing else is needed. But God saw how we would be, and made the decision to send a prophet to us in the end.

The bible IS the The Spirit of Prophecy in verity , the 'Rosetta stone' so to speak, a collection of Heaven inspired writings that cover everything needed for salvation, fully consecrated in His Holy Spirit, coming in the name of the Lord bonafide, correct? 66 perfect books in marvelous Harmony sent by God.

The same voice that taught Jeremiah or Daniel or John also taught several people who were part of the 1844 message. The first proclamation of the three angels messages.

Tell me if you can, how can you believe in the Adventist message unless you have been lead down the same path? The history of our church is prophesied in scripture. Many passages are connected to the great disappointment, it was Gods will that it occur in perfect symmetry of the prophetic language, and with it came a handmaiden as a prophet just as Joel prophesied and Peter quoted on Pentecost.

The fulfillment of the 2300 days, when the sanctuary would begin to be cleansed, brought our comprehension of the truth into being just as it was in the beginning of the church, perfectly prophesied in Revelation. All of the revelations of Jesus were perfectly foretold, the opening of the seals on the unexplained chapters of Daniel and Revelation are in order. A refining process of the true believers, and a judgment against the wicked.

God explained things that we couldn't comprehend by giving us the Spirit of Prophecy, just as He gave it to the pre-Advent church. When all of that majestic wisdom was originally written, in a nation much simpler than today no wonder they truly expected the coming of Christ in their day. I would loved to have seen the revival!!!! But after the date they realized by 'the Spirit of Prophecy' that it was foretold. Now there are very few prophecies left to be fulfilled, the end of Daniel 11. Just before Michael stands.

All of what has been locked away in wisdom by the Father is being revealed in these last times, found in perfect time to strengthen those who truly love Him, for the worst period of mens history which is soon to come.

Father, please give us MORE of your Spirit, including the Spirit of Prophecy. Amen

Happy Sabbath

Gordon, are there prophecies not covered in the GC you think people need to know to avoid being deceived in the last days?

PS - Do you know of a better Bible study on prophecy and last day events than the GC?

Those who have not built upon the old studies are deceived already.

Pastors are duty bound to bring forth new light.

Recall the message to Laodicea.
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It sounds like you're saying people are already deceived if they do not know more about prophecy than what is contained in the GC. Did I misunderstand you?

If I may, it sounds as if Gordon is saying that those who have rejected the past present truth of the historical Adventist message are already lost, which the Holy Spirit agrees with painfully.

But there are many true believers who have not been fully presented the three angels messages who are going to be part of the end time gathering. These people will witness the fulfillment of the true interpretation of scriptures built off the foundation of our historical message and receive the people of God proclaiming more than has already been proclaimed and see the glory of God through our words. They will fill up the ranks of the lost from our sleeping church.