From now on Brother Mountain-man, I will only accept a "thus sayest the Lord" because I don't see you quoting scripture your hypothesis is highly suspect.

Why not? There are huge blocks of ice floating around the solar system that do not have an atmosphere.

Of course, keeping the water liquid would require a heat source that keeps it between 0 and 100 degrees Celsius.


Why not? All it takes is a mass with enough gravity to hold the air down. The solar wind actually tends to blow away the atmosphere.

James, please go easy on me. I'm not the evil person you think I am. I am basing my beliefs on Genesis.

1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
1:4 And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The dark, formless, void, water covered earth was created "in the beginning". However, on the first day of creation week the only thing Jesus created was "light".

"Water CANNOT come into existence without an atmosphere. The atmosphere cannot exist without a sun." Are you a physicists? You are making some interesting assumptions.

I didn't call you evil. I am stating facts about the statements you make.

Do you know what "void" means? It means empty, Not there. You are looking at the text like an American who does not know Hebrew. The next time the word "Void" is used for earth is to make the point that that the earth is as close to not being here as you can get while not discounting the prophecies that it will always remain. This is the correct order of things, not the other way around.

The first verse, Gen 1:1 sets the stage. God is about to create the heavens of our earth. This not 'heaven' where God dwells but the heavens of earth, or our universe.

The second verse shows there was nothing in existence when He began. It also shows that at this point the only water in existence was the water of life, the Spirit of God in heaven. The same water that flows from His throne. This is His creative power or Holy Spirit. We are witnessing His Holy Spirit go forth to create our Universe by his word.

The third verse is the actual point of entry for anything to come into existence for this Universe. Like a giant placenta or incubator, God shared His glory with our space first. This is the light from Him to create and sustain life before there was a sun moon or stars.

You look at this verse as if it can be explained by material, scientific, Empirical evidence.

"Infidel geologists claim that the world is very much older than the Bible record makes it. They reject the Bible record, because of those things which are to them evidences from the earth itself, that the world has existed tens of thousands (billions) of years. And many who profess to believe the Bible record are at a loss to account for wonderful things which are found in the earth, with the view that creation week was only seven literal days, and that the world is now only about six thousand years old."{3SG 91.2}

You need to be careful because you are trying to teach heresy to the children of God. That is why I feel inspired to treat you sternly, to make a definite point as to what you are attempting to do in the presence of God's people. Not to be mean. Would you rather that I not follow what I am inspired to warn you about?

Assumptions? Actually I have intensively studied the subjects of physics longer than it takes to get a master degree or pH D, for 17 years. If it weren't for the fact that there is no accredited degree for creationism I would have one. But how about if I site others who do have degrees? Would that suffice?

Why does the moon not have water (except perhaps at the southern pole where comet debris is known to exist)? Because there is no atmosphere.

Quoting "A stable environment for water-ice Formation of Snow & Ice Masses term project" Professor Steve Warren, March 12, 2009

"The lunar atmospheric pressure, 100 Pa, is below the triple point of water. Therefore, liquid water cannot exist in the natural lunar environment. In this low-pressure environment (no atmosphere), ice sublimates at just above 240 K, which is just below the minimum lunar daytime temperature range 250-400 K [1]. Thus, solid ice is stable only in shadowed, sunless areas, where the temperature is 120 K or colder."

"Water is obviously the main ingredient for life to exist here and probably anywhere in the universe, but it must exist in all three forms on a planet in a habitable zone in order for it to work. If the planet is too hot there will be no water in the liquid state for any chemical reactions to take place to support life. The molecules will never come to together to create life and eventually evolve into a more complex organism. Also the organism may not survive the extreme heat since water broils at certain temperature depending on the atmospheric pressure. On the other hand, if the planet is too cold the water would exist as ice. No chemical reactions will occur since the necessary elements will never come together to support life. If you look at this another way, we and other organisms on this planet survives because water has a wide temperature range as a liquid, that is, from 0°C (32°F) to 100°C (212°F). If for some reason the Earth was moved out of the habitable zone to temperatures outside this range we will not survive very long simply because water does not exist in the liquid state outside of this range." http://melpor.hubpages.com/hub/Water-Is-Needed-For-Life-To-Exist-In-The-Universe

So if there was no sun, water would be a frozen chunk of ice.
If there was a sun and no atmosphere the ice would evaporate into Hydrogen and oxygen molecules in milliseconds. It has to be brought into existence under very controlled environments. Not exposed to the harsh conditions of space.

I could go on and on but you probably wouldn't even care to understand.

Because the earths livable atmosphere is sustained by the triple state of water. Without the sun, water freezes thus the atmosphere cannot be sustained in the blackness of space.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geophysics/earth4.htm

"Without the sun to start the process of evaporation, the water cycle wouldn't exist. We wouldn't have clouds, rain or weather. The water on the planet would be stagnant. It would also be solid, since without the sun to warm it, the Earth would be entirely frozen.

The sun powers the processes that control our climate and the content of our atmosphere. Without it, we wouldn't have oxygen or liquid water on our planet. We wouldn't have weather or seasons.

The stratosphere, the layer of atmosphere just above the one in which we live, contains a thin layer of ozone (O3). This layer wouldn't exist without the sun. Ozone is made of three atoms of oxygen. It's not a very stable molecule, but it takes a lot of power to create it. When UV light hits a molecule of oxygen (O2) of, it splits it into two atoms of oxygen (O). When one of these atoms comes into contact with a molecule of oxygen, they combine to make ozone. The process also works in reverse -- when UV light hits ozone, it splits it into a molecule of oxygen and an atom of oxygen.

Oxygen molecule + light = two atoms of oxygen. Oxygen atom + oxygen molecule = ozone molecule.

This process is called the ozone-oxygen cycle, and it converts UV light into heat, preventing it from reaching the surface of the Earth. Without the sun, the Earth wouldn't have an ozone layer."

So without the sun there is no atmosphere, without an atmosphere water doesn't exist in a liquid state. The sun was created on the fourth day of creation.

So here we have the quandary of the 'chicken or the egg'.

It takes faith to see that God created the chicken and the rooster first to create an egg.

Did God tell you in a dream or vision to warn me? You may be right, Jesus may have created light, water, and the earth on the first day of creation week. But it doesn't say so in the Bible.

That's why God keeps asking you, "where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth, and suspended the world upon nothing?"

It truly takes the Faith of the Lord to see from His perspective. We fall so short in our own puny understanding, but when the Spirit of Truth has come, there is very little that He would not reveal in His time.