There is an entire thread devoted to the topic of Michael the archangel in which I posted my thoughts earlier. They can be found HERE.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Right, kland.

Or anyone who has spent any time listening to Pastor Stephen Bohr. He sometimes spends half a sermon illustrating the better translation in different translations. (I love how God guides his heart)

But we need to be careful when we say... "one could accidentally come up with a better translation without having read the Greek or Hebrew. The people who choose the English words (or whatever language) are not necessarily inspired and may choose wrong words here, but right words there."

I would be very careful here.

As illustrated in the Spirit of Prophecy, sometimes it is God's will that certain things aren't translated or understood correctly by the masses.

God's hand covers different subjects until the time appointed has come, then His hand is withdrawn and the test comes.

How many people would have been a sanctified part of this church if in 1844 God revealed the disappointment before the day?

There are tests for His people, and the translations are a part of the test. Those who have the Holy Spirit don't always know everything until it is revealed. This is a part of the Mystery of Godliness.

Interesting article on the Majority Text vs. the Critical Texts: Majority Text vs. Critical Text .

I have. I saw him misquote Ellen White. He claimed that she wrote in Desire of Ages that the 24 elders of Revelation were aliens from other planets. He gave the page number and posted it on his screen. I had that book right beside me and looked it up. He had here statements with added parens. Inside those parens was the statements that they were aliens from other planets. Guess what? There are NO parens in the statment she made. I didn't call him on it, I just wrote him off.

Many people find it helpful to add in their own notations to a quote like that, but the more usual convention would have been to use square brackets instead of parentheses, simply because parentheses are more common and may have been used by the original author. His screen editors may have mistakenly used the wrong form.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Dave,

Are you aware that the Catholics are openly referencing their own role in editing/revising the original Hebrew/Greek manuscripts to make them more "acceptable?" These are the ones all Bibles are translated from nowadays, as they managed to pass them off as more "ancient" and therefore more "original."

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Very neutral observations, with no analysis of the changes brought in by the Alexandrian Codices or the purpose behind them.

The Sinaiticus was in the hands of the Orthodox Church, which KJV-onlyists insist faithfully guarded what today has become known as the Majority Text. The Catholic Church had there hands on many of the manuscripts which today are considered part of the Majority Text, and yet somehow these are not labeled as corrupt. Kutilek makes this observation when he says "Further, if mere possession by Rome makes a manuscript corrupt (“guilt by association”), then the many Byzantine--majority or traditional text--manuscripts housed at the Vatican are therefore likewise tainted (and for a brief and surely incomplete listing of Greek NT manuscripts now in Rome, see Alexander Souter, ed., Novum Testamentum Graece. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1947. 2nd edition, pp. x-xviii where some 25 manuscripts are noted as being currently in Rome). (Is the King James Version a "Roman Catholic Bible"?)

Dave,

Certainly, the simple fact that Rome has acquired and included the Majority Text manuscripts such as those of the Byzantine lineage in its library does not make them defiled. They may have a copy of the KJV in their library too. More power to them. But they will tell you which manuscripts they have edited, and included in the quote is a direct reference to the fact that their changes are made to the minority texts. They were not changing the Majority Text, nor have the modern translations come from it.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.