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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: APL] #146420
10/29/12 06:19 PM
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16:5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
16:7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous [are] thy judgments.
18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong [is] the Lord God who judgeth her.

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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Mountain Man] #146433
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Doesn't it depend on how you look at these texts? Her plagues shall come in one day - is it because the Lord will punish her for her evil deeds, or is it because she herself has filled her cup of evil up above the brim?

Is God increasing the punishment or does the destruction come as a direct result of the evil she has done? Her unwillingness to bein harmony with LIFE and the LIFEGIVER?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Johann] #146440
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Originally Posted By: EGW
     Sickness, suffering, and death are work of an antagonistic power. Satan is the destroyer; God is the restorer. {MH 113.1}
     The words spoken to Israel are true today of those who recover health of body or health of soul. "I am the Lord that healeth thee." Exodus 15:26. {MH 113.2}
     The desire of God for every human being is expressed in the words, "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth." 3 John 2. {MH 113.3}
     He it is who "forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases; who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with loving-kindness and tender mercies." Psalm 103:3, 4. {MH 113.4}
     When Christ healed disease, He warned many of the afflicted ones, "Sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." John 5:14. Thus He taught that they had brought disease upon themselves by transgressing the laws of God, and that health could be preserved only by obedience. {MH 113.5}


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: APL] #146442
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These are all wonderful promises.


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Johann] #146457
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Yes, Satan is a destroyer. It is interesting the holy angels plead with Jesus to punish the wicked twice as much.

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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Mountain Man] #146462
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You wouldn't "accuse" them of getting angry? They have for 6,000 years experienced the results of sin.


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Johann] #146464
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Amen. They will be happy to have it over. Justice will be vindicated. Nobody will acuse Jesus of being soft on sin ot too hard on sinners.

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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Mountain Man] #146465
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Is it vengeance or result?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Johann] #146485
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Punishment.

PS - Not sure how Sabbath breaking can result in weeping and gnashing of teeth in the lake of fire.

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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Mountain Man] #146495
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Punishment.

PS - Not sure how Sabbath breaking can result in weeping and gnashing of teeth in the lake of fire.
Question: Is the Sabbath arbitrary?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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