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Re: "How to attain Christian perfection"
[Re: James Saptenno]
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During my lifetime I have dealt with salvation in at least six different languages besides quite a number where I had to work through interpreters. There is a babel of tongues in this world. And there different people and different traditions and different opinions.
It is interesting that many Americans give occasion to think they are of the opinion that it is impossible to be a true Christian - or a true Seventh-day Adventist - without having a reasonable knowledge of the English language.
One reason for this could be that because many have had the opinion that God Himself provided the wording of the King James Version of the Bible and that it is the only true Bible.
It has given occasion to developing a unique system of defining the words used in the process of salvation, such as repentance, justification, regeneration, sanctification. . .
Do we take such pride in our knowledge of definitions that it places Jesus in s Shadow?
Last edited by Johann; 11/01/12 02:47 PM.
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: "How to attain Christian perfection"
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The word "ignore" does not mean ignorance. Sins of ignorance are sins people commit without realizing it. They have no idea it is a sin. For example, ignorantly breaking the Sabbath. OK, clear. Thanks. Then those who were and are not a Sabbath keeper, for this special condition, will be granted pardon universally? Yes, people who commit sins of ignorance are not counted guilty.
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Re: "How to attain Christian perfection"
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Do we take such pride in our knowledge of definitions that it places Jesus in s Shadow? Good question. We, my wife and I, pray every day for Jesus to protect us from losing sight of Him.
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Re: "How to attain Christian perfection"
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Re: "How to attain Christian perfection"
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It is interesting that many Americans give occasion to think they are of the opinion that it is impossible to be a true Christian - or a true Seventh-day Adventist - without having a reasonable knowledge of the English language.
One reason for this could be that because many have had the opinion that God Himself provided the wording of the King James Version of the Bible and that it is the only true Bible.
It has given occasion to developing a unique system of defining the words used in the process of salvation, such as repentance, justification, regeneration, sanctification. . .
Do we take such pride in our knowledge of definitions that it places Jesus in s Shadow?
That is also something God has shown me, if I may... When I was led to the Sabbath by the Holy Spirit, I had read the word 'sanctify' and it seemed to have a completely different meaning when I heard the general opinion of what it was by others in the faith who were less convicted on Spiritual effectiveness. I was shown that, when men do not want to let go of different sins in their life, it sways their comprehension of truth because of the searing of the conscience, and they end up being a shell of a Christian, barely by name sometimes. But I have also seen God bring a man through that state of lukewarmness to become a warrior of truth. God can use the fall of men to keep them from falling in the future but this is not how He wants it to be. This is God's last resort stuff. It's not safe to make your nest above the abyss.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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