Did He have sin in His body?

Did He have sin in His body?

What is the element of enmity as used in Gen 3:15?

Wonders of wonders. That great theme, The Great Controversy, is a TRUTH that has been given to God's people that they may discern how to be a part of the Victory made possible by the miraculous enmity.

Thank you, APL, we need to study messages like that. It refreshes the soul, even in the midst of the battle against the powers of darkness.

Within the realm of our discussion I'd still like to have an expanded definition of that miraculous enmity. Does that help us to understand the depravity of sin?

[quote=Rosangela]Sin was not an element in his body which would have led him to death. Or is it your contention that God prevented this element to act in Satan and his angels but not in humans? The difference between angels and humans is that, differently from humans, the life of angels is directly maintained by God. They could never die unless God ceased to sustain their life. [/quotge]Sin was not an element in his body which would have led him to death - - Really? You are 100% sure? So, sin is not the cause of death. Did Jesus carry our sin in His body on the tree? Yes or no? If yes, HOW? If no, then you do you not believe the scriptures?

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." While it is a disgrace to sin, it is no disgrace to confess sin, and to forsake it, as the hateful thing it is,--that which caused the death of the only begotten Son of God. {RH, December 9, 1890 par. 4}

What caused the death of the Son of God? SIN.

Or is it your contention that God prevented this element to act in Satan and his angels but not in humans? - - God did not allow the natural consequences of sin to take full effect. In humans, read Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; it shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel. What happens when God removed the enmity, let sin go to its natural conclusion? We see this on the cross. And it killed Christ.
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The difference between angels and humans is that, differently from humans, the life of angels is directly maintained by God. - I don't know how you know that. You will need to supply some evidence on this. Is not ALL life from God? Are you saying that humans can live independantly of God?

By transgression man had separated himself from Him who alone is light and love. The sinner was "alienated from the life of God," "dead in trespasses and sins." The only hope for the fallen race was found in their becoming reconciled to God. Satan had so misrepresented God that man had no true conception of the divine character. But in carrying out the plan of salvation, Christ revealed that "God is love." "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." The Father loves us, not because of the great propitiation; but he provided the propitiation because he loves us. Christ was the medium through which he could pour out his infinite love upon a fallen world. "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself." The Father suffered with the Son. In the agony of Gethsemane, the death of Calvary, the heart of infinite love paid the price of our redemption. {BEcho, August 1, 1892 par. 2}

Is this quotation saying that since man had sinned, then he was in need of execution? No. Sin causes death. If we do not believe on the Son, will we then need execution? No. Sin causes death.

Christians misrepresent their heavenly Father when they go mourning and groaning, as though they were burdened with an enormous load, when their countenances are expressive of gloom and despondency, and the shadow encompasses their souls. But let them not think they are serving God in so doing; they are doing Satan's work in misrepresenting God and his service. They should go before the Father, and plead with him for a view of his goodness. They have lost sight of Jesus and his love. Let them go to Christ and study his character, for he came to represent the Father. Shall we receive Satan's misrepresentations of our God, and go on in discouragement, lacking peace and joy in the Holy Ghost? Shall we go on mistrusting our heavenly Father's love and doubting his goodness? What greater injury could we do to our children and our friends than to give them such false impressions of Christian life? It was at an infinite cost to the Father that man's salvation was purchased. The Father suffered with the Son to bring salvation within our reach. It is not his will that one soul should perish, but that all should come to repentance and receive eternal life. He has done all that it is possible to do to save fallen man. There was no other way by which man could be brought into harmony with his unchangeable law, save by the death of Christ. Christ became our surety, our sacrifice, Saviour, and example, and when all Heaven has been poured out to us in this gift of God, how shall he not with him freely give us all things? {ST, September 2, 1889 par. 7}

What injury do we do our children when we say, if you are naughty, God will execute you? NO. Sin pays its wage, it causes death. Christ came to save us from our sins, not to save us from God!!!

Christ was the Son of God, equal with the Father; and yet he was abused, ridiculed, scourged, and crucified. There are many who have thought that the Father had no part in the sufferings of the Son; but this is a mistake. The Father suffered with the Son. When the Son of God hung upon Calvary, the darkness gathered like the pall of death about the cross. All nature sympathized with its dying Author. There were thunderings and lightnings, and a mighty earthquake, but the hearts of men were so hardened that they could quarrel at the foot of the cross upon which hung the world's Redeemer, about the dividing of his vesture. Their hearts seemed to be wholly under the control of the powers of darkness. Angels looked upon the scene with sorrow and amazement. As man's substitute and surety, the iniquity of men was laid upon Christ; he was counted a transgressor that he might redeem them from the curse of the law. The guilt of every descendant of Adam was pressing upon his heart; and the wrath of God, and the terrible manifestation of his displeasure because of iniquity, filled the soul of his Son with consternation. The withdrawal of the divine countenance from the Saviour, in this hour of supreme anguish, pierced his heart with a sorrow that can never be fully understood by man. Sin, so hateful to his sight, was heaped upon him till he groaned beneath its weight. The despairing agony of the Son of God was so much greater than his physical pain, that the latter was hardly felt by him. The hosts of Heaven veiled their faces from the fearful sight. They heard his despairing cry, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" they saw the divine Sufferer die beneath the sins of the world. {ST, November 25, 1889 par. 6}

Satan charged God with an unforgiving spirit, because he would not receive on terms of favor those who disobeyed his law and therefore misrepresented his character. But forgiveness of sins would be of no avail unless the course of transgression was abandoned, and the grace of Christ imparted to the sinner to renovate, purify, and ennoble him who had fallen by iniquity. This was the only way by which the sinner could be restored to divine favor, and trusted to come into copartnership with Jesus Christ. But in Christ we behold the character of the Father, and see the pitying tenderness which God exercised for fallen man, giving his only begotten Son as a ransom for the transgressors of the law. It is in beholding the love of God that repentance is awakened in the sinner's heart, and an earnest desire is created to become reconciled to God. When the transgressor becomes acquainted with God, and experiences his love, it produces in his heart a hatred for sin and a love for holiness. {RH, March 9, 1897 par. 4}

Are we to believe that because of transgression, God is now required to violate His law and kill?

What do the scriptures say?

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bore our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live to righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.