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Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal?
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The Roman Catholic church has long known about and covered up what they have done to the children, and many are saying that Pope Benedict XVI's resignation was because of the child abuse happening in the church, and that he may have not been as open as it seems in his role in it. The Church has come under the spotlight in recent times over allegations that it had covered up sexual abuse of children to protect paedophiles and its own reputation, rather than the children. "An Australian group representing the victims of sexual abuse has welcomed Pope Benedict XVI's resignation, saying he had done little to stop "the reign of terror of child rapist priests", a report said. The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) issued a statement calling for the next pontiff to be more cooperative with inquiries into abuse claims, according to a report by the Australian Associated Press (AAP). Spokeswoman Nicky Davis said: "Victims welcome the resignation of a church official with immense power who has done so little to stop the reign of terror of child rapist priests. "In the eyes of many victims, Joseph Ratzinger has personally done much to add to the huge number of victims and exponentially increase the suffering of those already harmed." http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/...pes-resignationThe Pope has had many other scandals, but this one may have been the reason for his resignation. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/..._n_2660899.htmlhttp://www.reuters.com/video/2013/02/12/...;videoChannel=1
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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal?
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It is very much probable to be the case that the Pope resigning because of pedoephilia crimes. The pressure was very high due mainly to the work of Kevin Annett. However, the charges went much broader. The government of many countries also was in it. For example, they have used our Canadian native indians and the natives in Australia to use these children into their pedeophilia sex rings. Kevin Annett of ITCCS(International Tribunal Into Crimes of Church and State) has been one of the main force in charging the Catholic Church, Anglican Church, and United Church of Canada and the government of Canada of these crimes, documenting many cases with many evidence and witnesses and bringing them into court. Kevin doesn't terms it as pedoephilia sex rings. I'm the one who used that term because that's the only word I have to try to describe it. However it is a collaboration between multiple agencies and the government and the Churches that are involve in these crimes. In England this terms is what properly define the crimes going on in their country. Kevin has extended his work in other countries also. For example in the US, Kevin is working with an attorney at the CCR(Center for Constitutional rights)to tackle the many criminal court cases where the Catholic church and others involve there. The criminal files are very thick and the Catholic church, the Canadian government and other countries, specific individuals, agencies, and etc.. has already been brought to court in numerous occurances since last fall. Part of the info is provided in this discussion here http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=140580#Post140580 . I have seen many other current report from their website( http://itccs.org/) that I haven't brought in that discussion. The pressure is very high on the Catholic Church and the government concerning these crimes. What seems worst is the pedeophelia ring crimes that has been taking place in England. The government there and the Royal family and the BBC and the Police are very deep above their head with these crimes coming out in public. There's been many victimes coming out, many articles and news report circuling around since last fall. All you need is to google the name Jimmy Savile. Here's a link below that briefly takes an outlook of the situation connecting Jimmy Savile, Stuart Hall, both BBC stars and heavy in pedopelia crimes, both was involve with children in their work, both highly honored by the Royal Family. Savile was head of many children charity programs in the country, overseeing these progams in Hospitals and orphanages. Hall was recently made Officer of the Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth in 2012 before he was arrested. If my memory is correct, Jimmy was made a knight not that long before he died. http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/sunday-express-jimmy-savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring/
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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal?
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Seriously!? We are going to discuss why the pope is resigning?? Old age 85, poor health, stress... And of course the Catholic curse of abuses... The message of Jesus should be adhered to on this issue, "he who is without sin, cast the first stone" Look I do not have a vested intrest in what the Catholics do...
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Seriously!? We are going to discuss why the pope is resigning?? Old age 85, poor health, stress... And of course the Catholic curse of abuses... The message of Jesus should be adhered to on this issue, "he who is without sin, cast the first stone" Look I do not have a vested intrest in what the Catholics do... BBD, I agree that no one is without sin and many denominations(including SDAs) spend lots of time pointing their finger at the RCC and the Pope when they have a plank in their eyes. Personally I'm interested in correctly understand the signs of the times and prophecies as they are being fulfilled before our eyes. As we all know Mystery Babylon is going(is now) fallen. I believe this is what we are seeing. Governments, Bankers, RCC, Royal Family, corporations, secret societies, etc... are being judged. These are to be an encouragement to us that the time of Jesus second coming is at hand.
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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal?
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Pope Benedict resigned to avoid arrest, seizure of church wealth by Easter http://itccs.org/2013/02/13/pope-benedic...alth-by-easter/"Diplomatic Note was issued to Vatican just prior to his resignation New Pope and Catholic clergy face indictment and arrest as "Easter Reclamation" plan continues A Global Media Release and Statement from The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State Brussels: The historically unprecedented resignation of Joseph Ratzinger as Pope this week was compelled by an upcoming action by a European government to issue an arrest warrant against Ratzinger and a public lien against Vatican property and assets by Easter. The ITCCS Central Office in Brussels is compelled by Pope Benedict's sudden abdication to disclose the following details: 1. On Friday, February 1, 2013, on the basis of evidence supplied by our affiliated Common Law Court of Justice (itccs.org), our Office concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy. 2. This arrest warrant was to be delivered to the office of the "Holy See" in Rome on Friday, February 15, 2013. It allowed the nation in question to detain Ratzinger as a suspect in a crime if he entered its sovereign territory. 3. A diplomatic note was issued by the said nation's government to the Vatican's Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, on Monday, February 4, 2013, informing Bertone of the impending arrest warrant and inviting his office to comply. No reply to this note was received from Cardinal Bertone or his office; but six days later, Pope Benedict resigned. 4. The agreement between our Tribunal and the said nation included a second provision to issue a commercial lien through that nation's courts against the property and wealth of the Roman Catholic church commencing on Easter Sunday, March 31, 2013. This lien was to be accompanied by a public and global "Easter Reclamation Campaign" whereby Catholic church property was to be occupied and claimed by citizens as public assets forfeited under international law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. 5. It is the decision of our Tribunal and the said nation's government to proceed with the arrest of Joseph Ratzinger upon his vacating the office of the Roman Pontiff on a charge of crimes against humanity and criminal conspiracy. 6. It is our further decision to proceed as well with the indictment and arrest of Joseph Ratzinger's successor as Pope on the same charges; and to enforce the commercial lien and "Easter Reclamation Campaign" against the Roman Catholic church, as planned. In closing, our Tribunal acknowledges that Pope Benedict's complicity in criminal activities of the Vatican Bank (IOR) was compelling his eventual dismissal by the highest officials of the Vatican. But according to our sources, Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone forced Joseph Ratzinger's resignation immediately, and in direct response to the diplomatic note concerning the arrest warrant that was issued to him by the said nation's government on February 4, 2013. We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally and directly disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking. Further bulletins on the events of the Easter Reclamation Campaign will be issued by our Office this week. Issued 13 February, 2013 12:00 am GMT by the Brussels Central "
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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal?
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The Rat Scurries from the Vat: The Latest Coup in Rome Posted on February 13, 2013 by Jean by Kevin D. Annett February 11, 2013 Facebook post
Theories are abounding this week now that the first pope in seven centuries is resigning his office. But as always, the most direct way to the truth behind the world’s oldest corporation is simply by following the money: and specifically, Vatican Bank money.
Let’s put to rest, first of all, the fallacy that “looming scandals” about child rape and coverup are behind Joseph Ratzinger’s resignation.
That’s just the cover story.
Nobody in the church hierarchy is losing much sleep over their standing, canon-law endorsed policy of concealing and protecting child rapists in their ranks. Even the International Criminal Court application about such crimes has been stymied by catholic-run legislators and jurists.
What pronounced the death knell on Pope Benedict was his personal implication in the bribery and money-laundering practices of the Vatican Bank, comically known as The Institute of Religious Works (IOR); and how that dirty connection gave the anti-Ratzinger faction in the College of Cardinals the lever they needed to dump the obstinate German from the papal throne. The Ex Pope and the New Pope? Joseph Ratzinger (l) and the palace coup-master, Cardinal Bertone
We had a whiff of that dump-Rat Boy agenda last year, when “Vatileaks” broke into the news with a ludicrous story of how Ratzinger’s loyal butler Paolo Gabriele disclosed the pope’s dirty secrets to the Italian media. In fact, the damning documents detailing Ratzinger’s secret rewarding of Vatican contracts to his friends and family members originated in the Vatican Secretary of State’s office, which the fall-guy butler could not have had access to.
The Secretary of State and the real power behind the papacy is Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, an old insider who also engineered the sacking of Gotti Tedeschi, head of the Vatican Bank, last May.
Tedeschi had taken seriously the call of the European Parliament for “greater transparency” by the Vatican Bank /IOR, and was about to disclose to Brussels how his bosses had been laundering money for the mob for decades. The last Pope who had tried such a disclosure, John Paul 1, died from poisoning in September, 1978 after less than a month in office.
But even with Tedechi silenced, the IOR house of cards kept tumbling, as the European Parliament seized from it 300 million Euros fraudulently acquired, and even the American Securities and Exchange Commission declared the IOR’s assets and practices “insecure”. A major Vatican housecleaning was required; or at least, the appearance of one.
It was the pivotal Cardinal Bertone who leaked the pope’s diary and other incriminating papers to a catholic-friendly journalist in Rome last year soon after the sacking of Tedeschi, to prepare the world for Ratzinger’s removal. For it is Bertone who is now reaping the benefits of the papal housecleaning; he is not only a primary contender for the pope’s position but a key player in the IOR.
During my first speaking tour in Rome, in the fall of 2009, I met with several senior Italian senators and officials of the parliamentary Radical Party. They all said the same thing about why Joseph Ratzinger had been made pope, and what awaited him. To quote one of those politicians,
“Nobody becomes pope without a sordid past, because only with such liabilities can he be controlled by the Curia. It’s the same in any big company. Well, Ratzinger made many indisrections as a Cardinal and made many enemies. His signing letters ordering criminal concealment was just one sin. He was to be the scapegoat for all of the trash that the church knew would surface”
So now, the papal scapegoat is gone, pensioned off to wherever ex-popes end up; and the time for the big face lift has arrived.
The idea of applying cosmetic surgery to a decaying facade like the Church of Rome reminds me of Shirley Maclaine trying to look forty at the age of ninety. And yet appearances are everything in show business as well as in religion.
Tarcisio Bertone is about as institutional as you can get, and represents the old Italian crowd of the Curia and are part of the Mob-government-papal clique that run the country and the Roman catholic church. In the words of one of the Roman Senators I spoke with,
“You must understand that in my country, the Mafia and the government and the Vatican are all the same people, and they really have only one concern: protecting their assets.”
Bertone, or whoever from the victorious ranks of his faction does assume the papal tiria, cannot be expected to do much but maintain the assets and security of the church, and that means by continuing the policies of silence and dissimulation that keeps the cash flowing. But their position is more difficult now in the wake of the enormous rifts developing within the wider church, where Cardinals are facing criminal prosecution for shielding child rapists, and talk of disaffiliating from Rome is widespread among Irish, American and German Bishops.
“We have all the grounds for a second Reformation now. That’s how serious is the crisis. The church will either rid itself of itself or face collapse” said the Roman Senator to me.
It was easy to despise Joseph Ratzinger: the Hitler Youth raised, reactionary bigot who sacked liberal and independent thinkers in his church as the Cardinal-head of the Vatican Inquisition, and who told American Bishops that purgatory awaited any of them who did not cover up priestly child rape. Even among fellow Cardinals, he was known as “Joe the Rat”.
But Ratzinger was a made to order object of hatred, and put there to play out the oldest game in politics: the venting of popular rage on a disposable figurehead so that the institution itself could proceed unscathed.
I doubt that it’s totally coincidental that Ratzinger was forced out of office so quickly barely ten days after our Common Law court published online hard evidence of the Pope’s involvement in crimes against humanity. Any new Pope will face the same charges, of colluding in a massive criminal conspiracy.
But the real issue is not who or what will replace Joseph Ratzinger as the latest figurehead, but how to displace the Vatican itself as a criminal power unto itself. And that struggle is just commencing.
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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal?
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Seriously!? We are going to discuss why the pope is resigning?? Old age 85, poor health, stress... And of course the Catholic curse of abuses... The message of Jesus should be adhered to on this issue, "he who is without sin, cast the first stone" Look I do not have a vested intrest in what the Catholics do...
Re 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal?
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Does an intimate knowledge of the reason why the pope resigned give us better insight into the the fulfillment of prophecy?
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal?
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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal?
[Re: Elle]
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I can't verify this online. Is it a hoax?
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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