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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
[Re: APL]
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Satan does not have human flesh, or testicles and you are totally whack for teaching this garbage. Who said they have human flesh? I will accept your appology. APL, I did not understand James to be saying you were whacked out.
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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
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02/28/13 06:15 PM
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Satan does not have human flesh, or testicles and you are totally whack for teaching this garbage. Who said they have human flesh? I will accept your appology. APL, I did not understand James to be saying you were whacked out. Really? What is he saying? I guess I need interpretation.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
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02/28/13 10:58 PM
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APL, don't bother trying to get citations or references from JSOT; he won't provide any. The voices in his head* are all the authority he needs or will provide.
*His words, not mine.
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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
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03/01/13 02:56 PM
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Really? What is he saying? I guess I need interpretation. Maybe it wasn't to you?
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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
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JAK I have supplied way more scriptural evidence as you on every subject, yet you do not concede.
APL I wasn't talking to you. Are you the one saying the Nephilim are satan's descendants?
Angels cannot have children. If you look closely at this next quote it proves that angels cannot bear children...
"The Sadducees reasoned that if the body is to be composed of the same particles of matter in its immortal as in its mortal state, then when raised from the dead it must have flesh and blood, and must resume in the eternal world the life interrupted on earth. In that case they concluded that earthly relationships would be resumed, husband and wife would be reunited, marriages consummated, and all things go on the same as before death, the frailties and passions of this life being perpetuated in the life beyond. In answer to their questions, Jesus lifted the veil from the future life. “In the resurrection,” He said, “they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.” He showed that the Sadducees were wrong in their belief. Their premises were false. “Ye do err,” He added, “not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.” He did not charge them, as He had charged the Pharisees, with hypocrisy, but with error of belief. {DA 605.4}
So if you need me to unpack this for you JAK, and Elle, Jesus is saying that we are like the angels in the second life not having sexual relations, which is to say the ANGELS DO NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS and He was warning everyone who would believe that garbage that they are like the Sadducees.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
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03/01/13 05:56 PM
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Really? What is he saying? I guess I need interpretation. Maybe it wasn't to you? Whew!
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
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So if you need me to unpack this for you JAK, and Elle, Jesus is saying that we are like the angels in the second life not having sexual relations, which is to say the ANGELS DO NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS and He was warning everyone who would believe that garbage that they are like the Sadducees.
Angels in obedience having spiritual bodies in heavens, does not marry, however it is a different story for angels that has left their heavenly abode and came on earth manifested as men and disobeyed the Lord's command to not marry. That's why Peter said they had sinned and Jude compares their sins to Sodom and Gomorrah going after 'strange flesh". The Bible is very clear on the issue.
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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
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03/02/13 12:42 AM
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So if you need me to unpack this for you JAK, and Elle, Jesus is saying that we are like the angels in the second life not having sexual relations, which is to say the ANGELS DO NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS and He was warning everyone who would believe that garbage that they are like the Sadducees.
Angels in obedience having spiritual bodies in heavens, does not marry, however it is a different story for angels that has left their heavenly abode and came on earth manifested as men and disobeyed the Lord's command to not marry. That's why Peter said they had sinned and Jude compares their sins to Sodom and Gomorrah going after 'strange flesh". The Bible is very clear on the issue. The "sons of God" do not act that way, Elle. Those are the fallen angels, and Genesis does not say that it was the fallen ones, but rather the "sons of God" who married the daughters of Cain. Who are the "sons of God"? They are those who are obedient to God's will. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:12-13)
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. (Romans 8:14)
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared] with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. (Romans 8:18-19) The above passages are clear about the "sons of God." These are "sons of God" are God's heritage, His "seed." God's children obey Him. Those who do not obey have another heritage. Notice the distinction drawn between these two classes in 1 John 3 (first half quoted below). 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
3:12 Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. According to the Bible, those who sin are children of the devil, and those who are righteous are the children of God. Each one of us has the privilege of choosing our paternity. Either God is our Father or the devil is. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
Last edited by Green Cochoa; 03/02/13 12:44 AM. Reason: Corrected a mis-placed phrase. Oops!
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
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03/02/13 12:49 AM
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Angels in obedience having spiritual bodies in heavens, does not marry, however it is a different story for angels that has left their heavenly abode and came on earth manifested as men and disobeyed the Lord's command to not marry. Where does the Bible say that angels received a command to not marry? They don't marry because they aren't physical beings. Angels (both fallen and unfallen) may assume a human appearance, but they aren't flesh and blood, so they can't procreate. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the world's rulers, of the darkness of this age, against spiritual wickedness in high places (Eph 6:12).
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Re: Who were the 'spirits in prison'?
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03/02/13 01:03 AM
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Right on Kland, G.C. and Rosangela. Great textual support, I'm making notes for the future with those.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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