The unfallen worlds pray for us!!!

"All the treasures of the universe will be open to the study of God’s redeemed. Unfettered by mortality, they wing their tireless flight to worlds afar—worlds that thrilled with sorrow at the spectacle of human woe and rang with songs of gladness at the tidings of a ransomed soul. With unutterable delight the children of earth enter into the joy and the wisdom of unfallen beings. They share the treasures of knowledge and understanding gained through ages upon ages in contemplation of God’s handiwork. With undimmed vision they gaze upon the glory of creation—suns and stars and systems, all in their appointed order circling the throne of Deity. Upon all things, from the least to the greatest, the Creator’s name is written, and in all are the riches of His power displayed. {DD 62.2}

You have not shown WHY unfallen beings need to pray, when they have direct and constant access to God.


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How do you know I haven't. "The theory of evolution is so accepted in the world of Science I'm surprised you have not read about it." Acceptance does not make it true.


Explanation and citation needed. Perhaps you want to start a new thread on this topic.


"...in my imagination" is the operative phrase here.

It is important to define just where these universes are and how they relate to our universe.

BTW, the theory of "dark matter" has absolutely no basis in science.

JAK,

If you have a question on things that I have claimed, do your own research. The bible doesn't say that a man sent with a message should have to do all your thinking for you.

I am sent with knowledge and understanding for God's purpose, now it is up to you to prove it or disprove it.

Your responsibility is to test the message in the standard of truth. Look it up, do some research. I keep falling for your ploys and even when the perfect answer comes you do not accept, so why listen? Is it more important for you to be heard over what God showed me? I

To know where you are in truth in this argument, go back and count how many posts you've had since you quoted scripture.

The unfallen worlds are still under probation until Satan is destroyed.

Demons still hang out at the tree of the knowledge of Good and evil and all of those people are still being tested.

Adam was created under probation thus the test of the tree.

The tree is still accessible to the unfallen worlds but they are horrified by what Satan did to the Son of God and will have nothing to do with the tree. Satan was effectually thrown out of heaven when he crucified Jesus, but the tree of the knowledge of good and evil has not dried up yet.

Do you get it?

Also, I never mentioned anything about dark matter and I also do not believe it is a valid scientific concept, but to a degree there is adaptive evolution so that whole science is not mute.

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"...in my imagination" is the operative phrase here.


Ye err in that ye know not your science. Dark matter is an integral part of the Bubble Universe Theory. Check your own post.

Brother JAK, I do love you, but you are obviously here to be a distraction, you could be harassing any number of people but you follow me around like you're stalking me and I am taking notes.

Above you asked for more citations. Read this and get a start on this knowledge, and if you have any faith the Spirit of Prophecy as from God, you will see.

Early Writings 39.3

"The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes; they were noble, majestic, and lovely. They bore the express image of Jesus, and their countenances beamed with holy joy, expressive of the freedom and happiness of the place. I asked one of them why they were so much more lovely than those on the earth. The reply was, “We have lived in strict obedience to the commandments of God, and have not fallen by disobedience, like those on the earth.” Then I saw two trees, one looked much like the tree of life in the city (It's the same one). The fruit of both looked beautiful, but of one they could not eat. They had power to eat of both, but were forbidden to eat of one. Then my attending angel said to me, “None in this place have tasted of the forbidden tree; but if they should eat, they would fall.”

All of God's creation was born under probation. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is still there until the cleansing of earth when this universe is reconnected to God's all encompassing universe.

P.S. Just because they think dark mater is the motivation that makes a wheel within a wheel universe possible and are wrong does not mean the theory that describes the evidence is unusable.

Sigh! One can only hope those notes are on how to structure an argument.

One would hope that if you are a Seventh Day Adventist you would already have this foundation in our faith established before you consider being a teacher, let alone structuring any kind of argument against it.

You remind me of the antagonistic College students I've met from our universities.

They are full of ideas but very little faith in the Spirit of Prophecy. They argue against our prophet like they are more enlightened, yet show very little compassion and are completely self serving, yet that is what they accuse me of. They find fault to separate, I am shown faults to heal. I do not like arguing, but my God hates when people come into His church and infer they know more than his prophet. They bring confusion not satisfaction in truth.

I know little of structuring an argument. I don't know how to develop a exegesis, and I don't know half of the garbage they teach at seminary, but I have been shown deep things in scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy which God taught me and continually enlightens to what it means and that's all I need in the name of Jesus amen.

This is my faith, and if you don't like using the Spirit of Prophecy to develop understanding in scripture then you are in the wrong church.

But how does that exclude those on other planets from looking even more like angels who have not been resurrected since they never sinned?

I think he did ig again. He gave a study on Daniel 2 and stated that the mixture of iron and clay were the mixture of church and state. Don't figure at all.