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Re: Distilled Water: Good or Bad?
[Re: Daryl]
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04/08/13 02:15 PM
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If you look at the osmotic potential, then yes, distilled water would leach minerals out as they would migrate from dense areas to less dense areas. While osmotic actions do affect our bodies, we are more than mere osmotic machines. We have many mechanisms which do "uphill" battles to overcome osmotic potentials. Whether drinking only distilled water over time would be harmful to one, I do not know. There may be some minerals which are absorbed. But, if that being true, then in areas where that mineral is not found, would there be health problems? Like the answer said, the best way to get your minerals is from food. A question comes to mind is, what does Ellen White mean by "pure water"? Is that purely H2O? Is that spring water? Or is that water in general instead of soft drinks?
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Re: Distilled Water: Good or Bad?
[Re: Daryl]
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04/08/13 02:28 PM
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Distilled water is very good for you as long as it comes from a good uncontaminated source and clean distillery.
The result is almost perfect water.
I use the filtration system at Walmart which is awesome. Prefiltered, Charcoal filtered, Reverse osmosis filtered, and UV filtered. For the money, if you buy 5 gallon jugs and refill, there is no better way to get good water.
But I believe there is evidence that water that is too pure can have a leaching/ osmotic effect. And it doesn't taste as good.
To eliminate the sterile taste I add A teaspoon of Calcium/Magnesium, derived from Red Algae husks, which have the perfect Cal/mag levels for bioavailability. It is a product I used in my Bio-Smooth prebiotic blend at my smoothie shop.
This renewable calcium source is way better for us and taste better than calcium derived from sea shells (calcium carbonate)
I only put enough to bring the PPM levels to 10 ppm and this is perfect for taste.
The best water source is glacial water that has not been in circulation, or unfrozen for hundreds of years. The second best is from artesian springs, but the groundwater around the world is so contaminated now.
I live at the headwaters of the Mississippi and we have three aquifers that supply some of the best water in the midwest.
I would HATE to be living at the end of the Mississippi. The water has been processed more than 20 times and redeposited if you know what I mean. All the runoff from pig farms and companies and roadways. Millions of pounds of Medication being flushed into waterways every year etc etc. (don't mean scare anyone but it's true)
The things that are forming dioxins and toxins we do not even have a name for and no way to filter.
I used to work for Dow chemical in the reverse osmosis filter processing subsidiary called FilmTech. I learned a lot about water sustainability there.
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Re: Distilled Water: Good or Bad?
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
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04/08/13 09:53 PM
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Wow Kland while I was waiting for my post to be applied after I had written it you said almost the exact same thing.
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Re: Distilled Water: Good or Bad?
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04/09/13 02:04 PM
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Excepting I was suggesting that pure water may not actually cause harm to our bodies. That our bodies are designed to prevent any harmful leaching effect. Don't know if that's true or not. Just thinking of the kidneys and many other processes which work uphill.
How did you decide 10 ppm creates the osmotic potential so it does not potentially leach any nutrients out?
Head waters, mouth.
It's obvious you don't mean you live where the river dumps into the ocean. However, isn't that called the "mouth"? That has always mixed me up as I think of mouth as swallowing water and therefore the mouth should be where the water enters and not leaves. But does what actually it is called mean the head is not where the mouth is?
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Re: Distilled Water: Good or Bad?
[Re: kland]
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04/10/13 12:14 AM
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I used to think hard drinking water was better for your health than soft because of it's mineral content. But a few years ago I noticed that Ellen White says in more than one place that soft water is better for drinking and bathing. The reason soft water is better is likely that water is a purifier; the more pure the water is the better it can do it's job. If that's so, distilled water would be fine to drink, but that level of purity is not necessary for it to do a good job. According to her soft water is fine. She doesn't make any direct comment on distilled water, but it was available in her day.
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Re: Distilled Water: Good or Bad?
[Re: kland]
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04/10/13 06:03 AM
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Excepting I was suggesting that pure water may not actually cause harm to our bodies. That our bodies are designed to prevent any harmful leaching effect. Don't know if that's true or not. Just thinking of the kidneys and many other processes which work uphill.
How did you decide 10 ppm creates the osmotic potential so it does not potentially leach any nutrients out?
Head waters, mouth.
It's obvious you don't mean you live where the river dumps into the ocean. However, isn't that called the "mouth"? That has always mixed me up as I think of mouth as swallowing water and therefore the mouth should be where the water enters and not leaves. But does what actually it is called mean the head is not where the mouth is? I had to think about what you meant... (headwaters, mouth) I thought you were calling me a name at first, hahaha. The head waters are where the river begins, the mouth the end. It is confusing and that is why I call the mouth 'the end' or usually the 'delta' in the case of Mississippi. I also do not think there is much danger in the osmotic effect from drinking ultra pure water, except for women with extreme osteoporosis and people who have been through chemotherapy or have duodenum problems in their stomach. The Duodenum has been known to become irritated from ultrapure water in these patients, and bone problems can occur because of leaching making it harder to absorb calcium. But I would much rather know there is nothing in there than to think there is something dangerous. But here are some facts. We have no way of filtering Many of the dangerous compounds that develop by mixing chemicals willy nilly in the rivers, and these mixtures do not register on dissolved solid ppm or EC (electrical conductivity) meters. Only the most expensive sensors can detect half of the dioxins that we know exist in the water. So keeping the source clean is most important. I do not believe they should be taking water directly from rivers to supply potable water for drinking, it should come from underground river source or the deep ground nearby so there is a greater degree of filtration before the city processing. But the wells have been so neglected, and as soon as there is flooding there is contamination underground so the wells should be upgraded and this expensive. I have personally seen how they filter city water for drinking in many facilities and I would not drink anything from the tap in any city around the world except very few places in America. You might as well bring water with you to Mexico or any third world country because of the damage already done to their waters. (guess who is responsible for most of the damage?) I live in a town which has won many awards for clean drinking water in Minnesota, I'm proud of that point. I wouldn't drink from the tap in New York City or Washington DC if you paid me to. I have mentioned this before but James White loved cutting edge technology and because they traveled so much, he always carried an activated charcoal water filtration jug with him, so they could remain healthy. They always boiled their water and filtered it.
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Re: Distilled Water: Good or Bad?
[Re: Charity]
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04/10/13 01:15 PM
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What does she mean by "soft water"? Sodium Chloride softening system? Or soft rain water?
Getting to the original plan, before the flood, would one expect there to be many minerals in the streams?
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Re: Distilled Water: Good or Bad?
[Re: kland]
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04/10/13 05:19 PM
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She meant it in the way they did in general back then, water uncontaminated by heavy iron/ mineral deposits. Mainly that good well water was softer than bad well water. They noticed the difference a lot in their travels. She loved the Water in Michigan and California.
She did say rain water makes a good source of soft water, but that it also needs to be boiled and filtered.
They didn't have sodium chloride water softeners back then yet.
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Re: Distilled Water: Good or Bad?
[Re: Charity]
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04/11/13 05:42 AM
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So glad that the best and softest water comes right out of our tap without any filtering. So delicious without an equal. The water comes from a spring where the water comes straight out of the earth by a mountain.
Just a few hundred yards from our house flows a river straight from some of the largest glaciers of Europe. Nowhere is glacial water drinkable because glaciers have been collecting dust and mud for centuries and rivers and creeks from these glaciers consist of melted ancient snow and ice. This water flows into the Atlantic Ocean where it evaporates into the clouds and returns to earth through rain, which is naturally distilled water, provided there is no industrial or other dust in the clouds.
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