Oh. I probably got some arsenic poisoned water in me, because after I built all the pens and fences and gates, my wife (she looks at everything) read the wood posts were pressure treated with arsenic and were being changed to something else that would be safer if I remember right.

Apparently I had asked a ND about this by email about a year ago and here is the response to my email:

The problem with Distillation (and the main reason most bottling companies do not use it), when the process occurs it leaves sediment in a form of scale on the walls in the heating chamber and to lesser degrees on the condensation tubes, (ask anyone who owns a distiller) until there is a thick scale on all surfaces, then the unit reaches its saturation point and then the effect becomes futile because the contaminants start coming out the end that is supposed to be clean. And unless you continually clean the equipment every time you use it, which is very labor intensive, there is a greater and greater degree of possibility of contaminants. Especially when the water source is less pure.

The level of cleaning available by the four step filtration process is better for many reasons, including not having to use descaling solvents to clean the units every month, which poisons the waste water. The only drawback to a filter is in the landfill. But landfill of a filter is much more eco-friendly than pouring Sulfamic acid and the byproduct sulfuric acid down the drain which acts as a reagent to make benzonitriles (very poisonous) from benzamides. Nasty.

And the part from ND about humans not needing minerals in our drinking water, all the scientific evidence points to this being untrue. To say humans do not need minerals in their water, saying it is only needful by plants, now that is pseudoscientific. The greatest benefit in purified water is having control over what minerals are in the water to be beneficial. Just like the horticultural hydroponic industry, start with pure and curtail it for the needs.

The fact that in the horticultural industry with precise level monitoring, controlling what is in the water on every level including pH, they can actually cause plants to grow 10 times more efficiently even in soil. This should give plenty of credibility to the fact that other organic lifeforms would benefit from their water content being tailored to their needs don't you think?

Cows and all livestock grow more efficiently where the water is best.

All fish in aquariums have precise guidelines to the salinity and ph levels established for decades to manage ultimate growth, so humans are the only organism that do not need this?

Just the fact that ultrapure water is more destructive to pipes and equipment should give lots credibility to what it does inside humans guts. Don't you think?

In my recent studies as I mentioned earlier, in the netherlands with their centralized water softening, their pipes and water transport mechanisms last twice as long because their form of water softening raises pH levels to be slightly alkaline which is less destructive to copper and PVC pipes. (though I do not profess to know why since a pH of 7, as in pure water, is neutral)

But look at any out pipes of a distiller or Reverse Osmosis system and see the corrosive effect of ultrapure water, especially to stainless steel.

I think you will see that the pure water of heaven has the perfect mineral content for life. This is heavenly science.

Ummmm.... I believe this could be determined scientifically. Are you saying that sediment leaves the container in the vapor and enters the condensation tubes? If so, that throws into question the whole purpose of distillation.


No.
Plants absorb nutrients much different than animals and operate at different pHs.



Does it? Any qualifications to it?

Could this be a heat effect? And define "corrosive" in relation to what you have in mind.

Which I brought up before, before the flood, was there mineral content in the water? When the mist went up from the ground to water the earth, was there mineral content in it? I suppose your answer would reflect the answer to the first question I ask here.

I thought you could clean a home water distiller with vinegar, or am I all wet?

The ND's comments make sense to me. Plants can assimilate raw minerals but we're made differently. We're created to rely on the botanical world. That world takes the raw elements and together with sunshine and water and warmth pre-digests our food for us.

Have any of you owned a distiller? Like I said before, I worked for Dow Chemical in their Reverse osmosis department and I had 3 years of training on this exact subject. I learned things there that they don't teach in College in this subject, so please consider me an expert here, maybe? I also [u]owned my own company[/u] where I developed a product called Bio-smooth prebiotic supplement which is used for treating high purity water to eliminate the leaching effect. In direct concert with scientists and doctors I built a company that dealt with this exact issue. OK? [email]pulsejuice@gmail.com[/email] if you email me I can show you literature. Did you guys read the report with all the scientific papers I just listed earlier? READ THIS PAPER! http://whqlibdoc.who.int/publications/2009/9789241563550_eng.pdf Here is another one entitled [url=http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutdemineralized.pdf]Health risks for drinking demineralized water.[/url] That would answer a lot of these questions. Here is some quotes from these scientific papers. "Demineralised water is highly aggressive and if untreated, its distribution through pipes and storage tanks would not be possible. The aggressive water attacks the water distribution piping and leaches metals and other materials from the pipes and associated plumbing materials." HEALTH RISKS FROM CONSUMPTION OF DEMINERALISED OR LOW-MINERAL WATER Knowledge of some effects of consumption of demineralised water is based on experimental and observational data. Experiments have been conducted in laboratory animals and human volunteers, and observational data have been obtained from populations supplied with desalinated water, individuals drinking reverse osmosis-treated demineralised water, and infants given beverages prepared with distilled water. Because limited information is available from these studies, we should also consider the results of epidemiological studies where health effects were compared for populations using low-mineral (soft) water and more mineral-rich waters. Demineralised water that has not been remineralised is considered an extreme case of low-mineral or soft water because it contains only small amounts of dissolved minerals such as calcium and magnesium that are the major contributors to hardness. The possible health consequences of low mineral content water consumption are discussed in the following categories: • [u]Direct effects on the [b]intestinal mucous membrane[/b], metabolism and mineral homeostasis or other body functions[/u]. • Practically zero calcium and magnesium intake. • Low intake of other essential elements and microelements. • Loss of calcium, magnesium and other essential elements in prepared food. • Possible increased dietary intake of toxic metals leached from water pipe. • Possible bacterial re-growth.

JSOT,

I have worked with more than one distiller, and own a good one right now that is made by Pure Water. It sounds to me like you have not learned to properly maintain a distiller and/or you had an inferior product. "Scale" does not get into the condensation side of the distiller unless you have introduced actual "water/brine" there. If you are exposing it to the original water, then you risk all sorts of issues and damage to your distiller, not to mention defeating the purpose of having one.

Steam is pure water. Condensing pure water gives no scale, for there is no such thing as scale made of H2O. The minerals that would be found in the scale do not evaporate with the water. That's why distillation yields the purest water known to man.

I watched a demonstration on the purity of distilled water. Water purity is measured in terms of its impurities--in parts per million (PPM). The lower this number, the purer the water. Typical water from the tap will likely measure in the hundreds of PPM. Distilled water may get you between 0-2 PPM, and the higher the reading, the more likely you've actually not cleaned your measuring instrument sufficiently between water samples. (Cleaning it with tap water would introduce a high PPM contamination potential.)

Learn to use your distiller properly, and there's no excuse for having contaminated water.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Man if I have to argue on every single point here, I think I'll go mad.

To answer your point GC, there are a lot of variables on how pure distilled water is. (have you ever heard of double distilled or deionized water?)

The easiest way to answer is this.

How pure is the air in your home? (most homes air is 100 times more toxic than outside) As soon as ultrapure water comes into contact with air it immediately becomes impure by the action of O2 retention. What ever is part of the air becomes part of your water on the surface by the O2 molecules binding to and mixing in the water.

The hotter the air in the chamber, the more water it can hold and the heat of the water makes the O2 retention diminished, UNTIL the water condenses, then immediately the O2 retention inside of the water increases and the air it is was suspended in and whatever is in the air begins to mix into the water. A good distiller has an intake air filter for this purpose.

So to make the point even more precise, ultrapure water is semi-corrosive to stainless steel and copper and lead solder joints like I mentioned before, and creates a leaching process in whatever metal it touches. Since you claim to have a distiller, then the milky surface of your stainless steel where the water makes contact would testify to this strange phenomenon.

In the chemical industry they use precise methods of distillation to eliminate all of these variables, including using glass and double distilling and Ion removal. (deionization) This is truly the purest form of water, but for all intents and purposes, If you have a distiller and do not clean every time you use it, you will see a buildup of impurities inside the condensation tubes unless made of glass. And if you argue this point then it is obvious you do not have a distiller. The condensation effect creates this milky buildup on every type of metal and it builds and builds and eventually it can come out of the tubes in chunks. The constant use of metal tubes in condensing ultrapure water will eventually dissolve the tubes to nothing. IT IS CORROSIVE ***** STAFF EDIT *****.

The leaching of the metals itself makes the water less than pure.
I can prove everything I am saying right now.

Why are all the links missing in my post?

Don't know as no links were edited out of your previous post here by any of us.