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Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a Sin without any Exceptions?
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05/10/13 11:04 PM
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A situation here at Maritime has prompted me to create this thread.
Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a sin against God without any exceptions?
What does the Bible and/or the Writings of Ellen White have to say about this?
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Re: Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a Sin without any Exceptions?
[Re: Daryl]
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05/10/13 11:25 PM
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What different kinds of vows do we as Christians often make to God?
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Re: Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a Sin without any Exceptions?
[Re: Daryl]
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05/10/13 11:28 PM
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One kind of vow that all SDA Christians make are the baptismal vows.
Is it OK for any of us to break even one of our baptismal vows?
Are these type of vows made unto men, or are they made unto God?
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Re: Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a Sin without any Exceptions?
[Re: Daryl]
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05/10/13 11:29 PM
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A lot of questions that need answering.
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Re: Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a Sin without any Exceptions?
[Re: Daryl]
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05/11/13 08:33 PM
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One kind of vow that all SDA Christians make are the baptismal vows.
Is it OK for any of us to break even one of our baptismal vows?
Are these type of vows made unto men, or are they made unto God? If the baptismal vows have changed, then is one bound to keep the new one?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a Sin without any Exceptions?
[Re: Daryl]
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05/11/13 10:54 PM
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Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a sin against God without any exceptions? 1) There are very different vows, oaths, pledges, promises, etc. There is no one answer that fits all situations. 2) Any sin can be forgiven, except a sin that is continued in rebellion against the Holy Spirit. IOW, one can be forgiven for the past, but that forgiveness does not justify a continuation. 3) Some peole are held to a higher standard. E.G. If one claims to speak directly for God and if that person presents as one who judges others, speaking words of admonition, warning and judgement, that person can be held to a higher standard. 4) A oath taken in violaton of the 3rd commandment is probably a greater sin than some others. 5) An oath that commits one to sin should not be kept.
Last edited by Gregory; 05/11/13 11:14 PM.
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Re: Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a Sin without any Exceptions?
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05/11/13 11:12 PM
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From My Life Today Reverence should be shown also for the name of God. Never should that name be spoken lightly or thoughtlessly. Even in prayer its frequent or needless repetition should be avoided. {ML 282.2}
Those who are brought into covenant relation with God are pledged to speak of Him in the most respectful, reverential manner.... {ML 282.3}
Swearing, and all words spoken in the form of an oath, are dishonoring to God. The Lord sees, the Lord hears, and He will not hold the transgressor guiltless. He will not be mocked. Those who take the name of the Lord in vain will find it a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. {ML 282.4}
By the thoughtless mention of God in common conversation, by appeals to Him in trivial matters, and by the frequent and thoughtless repetition of His name, we dishonor Him. {ML 282.5} From Patriarchs & Prophets, Page 506 The obligation to which one's word is pledged--if it do not bind him to perform a wrong act--should be held sacrd. No consideration of gain, of revenge, or of self-interest can in any way affect the inviolability of an oath or pledge.
Last edited by Gregory; 05/11/13 11:13 PM.
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Re: Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a Sin without any Exceptions?
[Re: APL]
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05/12/13 02:16 AM
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I would say you are only bound to keep the one you actually made. One kind of vow that all SDA Christians make are the baptismal vows.
Is it OK for any of us to break even one of our baptismal vows?
Are these type of vows made unto men, or are they made unto God? If the baptismal vows have changed, then is one bound to keep the new one?
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Re: Are Broken Vows, Oaths, Pledges, Promises, Etc. a Sin without any Exceptions?
[Re: Daryl]
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05/12/13 03:23 PM
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I would say you are only bound to keep the one you actually made. The above statmetn was made in reference to baptisimal vows. I agree. Now let me point out: There are currently two sets of Baptisimal Vows. The 1st has 13 different statements or pledges. The 2nd has 3 different statements or pledges. These two ssets of vows are quite different. But, both are valid. In addition, even the 13 has considerable flexability with room for differences as to what thy mean and how they can be applied. So, to charge someone with breaking their baptisimal vows is not a "slam-dunk."
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