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Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: Green Cochoa] #154463
07/25/13 11:00 PM
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Here is another possible way that God "destroys" His enemies:
Romans 5:10 We were God's enemies, but he made us his friends through the death of his Son.

Does not God destroy His enemies when He makes them His friend?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: APL] #154485
07/27/13 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Here is another possible way that God "destroys" His enemies:
Romans 5:10 We were God's enemies, but he made us his friends through the death of his Son.

Does not God destroy His enemies when He makes them His friend?

If you are trying to couple this concept with that of my previous post, you would be promoting a universal salvation. I, on the other hand, cannot find any indication from Scripture that all will be saved.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: Green Cochoa] #154489
07/27/13 01:54 PM
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If God would save everyone, would that upset you Green? It upset Jonah. It upset the prodigal's brother.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: APL] #154493
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I'm sure GC would be happy for all to be saved, but that would contradict God's Word. It is better to accept an upsetting truth than a pleasant lie.


By God's grace,
Arnold

1 John 5:11-13
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: asygo] #154503
07/28/13 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: asygo
I'm sure GC would be happy for all to be saved, but that would contradict God's Word. It is better to accept an upsetting truth than a pleasant lie.
Here is the best lie. God is going to torture you and kill you, if you do not love Him.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: APL] #154504
07/28/13 06:40 AM
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"If you are selfish, God's presence and glory will be torture to you and eventually destroy you." Is that true or false?


By God's grace,
Arnold

1 John 5:11-13
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: asygo] #154505
07/28/13 06:42 AM
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"God is too loving to punish anyone." True or false?


By God's grace,
Arnold

1 John 5:11-13
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: asygo] #154508
07/28/13 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: asygo
"God is too loving to punish anyone." True or false?
Define punish, in this context as you understand it.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: APL] #154523
07/28/13 07:33 PM
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I'll wait for you to answer the previous question.


By God's grace,
Arnold

1 John 5:11-13
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
Re: What is the Wrath of God? [Re: asygo] #154525
07/28/13 08:08 PM
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As I have repeatedly quoted: "To sin, wherever found, "our God is a consuming fire." Hebrews 12:29." {DA 107.4}

Now my question to you, why?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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