As I have repeatedly quoted: "To sin, wherever found, "our God is a consuming fire." Hebrews 12:29." {DA 107.4}

Now my question to you, why?

Ps 78:17 Yet they sinned still more against him, rebelling against the Most High in the desert.
18 They tested God in their heart by demanding the food they craved.
19 They spoke against God, saying, "Can God spread a table in the wilderness?
20 He smote the rock so that water gushed out and streams overflowed. Can he also give bread, or provide meat for his people?"
21 Therefore, when the LORD heard, he was full of wrath; a fire was kindled against Jacob, his anger mounted against Israel;
22 because they had no faith in God, and did not trust his saving power.
23 Yet he commanded the skies above, and opened the doors of heaven;
24 and he rained down upon them manna to eat, and gave them the grain of heaven.
25 Man ate of the bread of the angels; he sent them food in abundance.
26 He caused the east wind to blow in the heavens, and by his power he led out the south wind;
27 he rained flesh upon them like dust, winged birds like the sand of the seas;
28 he let them fall in the midst of their camp, all around their habitations.
29 And they ate and were well filled, for he gave them what they craved.
30 But before they had sated their craving, while the food was still in their mouths,
31 the anger of God rose against them and he slew the strongest of them, and laid low the picked men of Israel.

Huh?

Maybe your comment was to Green?

I had asked for a quote with the exact Green type of phrase, "God destroys". You listed one which says God does not destroy, hence my, "huh?".

Are you saying it's an either or: the sinner will kill himself or God will kill him? Is being destroyed the same thing as killing?
How about "perish"?

Are you saying it's an either or: the sinner will kill himself or God will kill him?

Is being destroyed the same thing as killing?
How about "perish"?

Oh, and by the way, that is part of the life of Jesus--so it certainly fits in with the "all we can know..." line that some of you interpret so strictly.

Well, we know that the impenitent will die eternally. At least I think we do. So what kills them?

It could be God. Revelation 20:9 says, "And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them." That sounds pretty fatal.

It could be the sinner himself. FLB 58.7 says, "The sinner destroys himself by his own impenitence." That sounds pretty fatal.

Whose will is it that the unrepentant sinner will die? Is there another agent out there that will fulfill this will?


Destroy, consume, kill, perish could all mean the same thing. But sometimes they don't.

Could it be that this is one of those times where perish does not mean the same thing as actively and intentionally killing? That by refusing to partake of the source of life, they perish.