You mean the, God said it, I believe it, and therefore I can turn my mind off type of attitude?

Can you find anywhere else in the Bible which contradicts that God slew Saul? One other was not aware of it, but being not aware of something does not mean it does not exist.

If God said it, why do you disagree? Do you know better than Him?

And if there's something I don't know, go ahead and tell me. There's no point merely telling someone that they should know something.

Are we going to study or are we just going to hint at things? If you want to study, let's get going. If not, I have other things to do.

But at this point, it seems that you don't believe God's word. That's bad. That's how Satan got Eve to disobey.

If that is the case, then nobody will be lost; everyone will have eternal life. Is that right?

Yes.

Isa 46:10 God will Do ALL His Pleasure (rf. Eph 1:11 & 1 Tim 2:4)
Dan 4:35 God's will done in heaven & earth, none can stop Him
Job 5:17-18 God wounds then He makes whole
Hos 6:1-2 God tears, but in the third day He heals
Deut 32:39 God kills & makes alive, He wounds but then heals
Psa 90:3 God turns man to destruction, then says return
Lam 3:31-32 God will not cast off forever
Isa 45:22 ALL the earth commanded to look and be saved
Isa 45:23 Unto God ALL will bow & every tongue swear
Psa 138:4 ALL kings will praise God
Psa 72:17 ALL nations will call Him blessed
Psa 86:9 ALL nations will worship God & ALL men blessed
Isa 52:10 ALL earth will see the salvation of God
Psa 65:2-4 ALL flesh will come to God
Isa 11:9 The earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord
Psa 66:3-4 Enemies will submit & ALL earth will worship
Isa 19:14-25 Egypt & Assyria will be restored
Ezk 16:55 Sodom will be restored
Isa 54:5 He will be called the God of THE WHOLE EARTH
Psa 22:25-29 ALL will remember & turn unto the Lord
Isa 25:6 The Lord will make unto ALL people a feast
Isa 25:8 He will swallow up death (ALL death) in victory
Isa 25:8 He will wipe away tears from ALL faces
Jer 32:35 Never in God's mind to pass anyone through the fire of Molech
Isa 26:9 In judgment...the inhabitants will learn righteousness

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Above is a partial OT listing. There are over 60 NT texts of the type like above, but I will only list one that is quite direct in answering your question.

1 Tim 2:4 God will have ALL to be saved

But above all these texts, the strongest texts is what the Law says especially in the Jubilee Law and the second Passover opportunity which prophecies what the Lord has instituted as Law which says what He is going to accomplish despite of our fraility.

1 Timothy 2:4 who desires everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Nice going APL! And so you will use any other translations with the other well over 100 other texts to find one that says what you want it to say and not seek the Lord's meaning and intention!

You should know better than that -- look at the source word(Hebrew or Greek) of the text. It's time to tear down those heart idols(Ezek 14) and seek the Lord's mind & heart and not man's interpretation. Read the law of the second Passover(Num 9) and the Jubile Law(Lev 25). The Law is spiritual and Prophetic. Jesus said all the law will come to pass -- not even a dot will be unfullfilled.

AV 1Ti 2:4 Who will have [thelo, to determine) all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Who will have. Literally, “who wills”

Elle,

APL is right. God, wants it to happen, but He won't force us if we don't want it.

So, your answer to the question is a definite NO.

As for the idea that everyone will be saved eventually, I think there's already a thread on that. I'll look for it and we can continue this there.

Then you call the Lord a liar and make null His laws and His vows. At the end it is the Lord's word shall not return empty (Is 45:23)and His laws that will be fulfill and not men's ideology. There's lots of time for everyone to turn back to the Lord. Whatever time it will take, at the end all men will worship the Lord as the Bible says.

Oh I do believe God's word. I believe it is more complex and deeper than you make it out to believe.

And Elle is doing it right back at ya. She is saying that God said it and so who are you to question it and that you don't really believe the Bible. But you see something deeper than such thinking and consider that the Bible isn't really saying what she wants it to say. But aren't you doing the same thing here? That what you think the Bible is saying, it isn't? If you object, then what about the Elle?



Regarding Saul, if you don't know how he died, wouldn't you want to know how God "slew" Saul, so you know what to fear if God is "gonna get you"? Was it lighting strikes zapping him from the sky?

Or is the answers to these questions immaterial since you already know God is gonna get the bad people and keep the good people in fear so they don't go bad. And therefore, knowing whether even if the Bible said God slew Saul or not, doesn't really matter.