Then you call the Lord a liar and make null His laws and His vows. At the end it is the Lord's word shall not return empty (Is 45:23)and His laws that will be fulfill and not men's ideology. There's lots of time for everyone to turn back to the Lord. Whatever time it will take, at the end all men will worship the Lord as the Bible says.

Sure all will worship, but all will not be saved.

According to the Law of Jubilee, at the end all will return to their inheritance(be saved). No debt is too great that will not be erased! The Lord has given us the TYPE and Jesus said all the Law will be fulfilled...which means this law will be fulfilled.

Then what is the meaning of Mat. 7:22-23?

Oh I do believe God's word. I believe it is more complex and deeper than you make it out to believe.

And Elle is doing it right back at ya. She is saying that God said it and so who are you to question it and that you don't really believe the Bible. But you see something deeper than such thinking and consider that the Bible isn't really saying what she wants it to say. But aren't you doing the same thing here? That what you think the Bible is saying, it isn't? If you object, then what about the Elle?

Regarding Saul, if you don't know how he died, wouldn't you want to know how God "slew" Saul, so you know what to fear if God is "gonna get you"? Was it lighting strikes zapping him from the sky?

Or is the answers to these questions immaterial since you already know God is gonna get the bad people and keep the good people in fear so they don't go bad. And therefore, knowing whether even if the Bible said God slew Saul or not, doesn't really matter.

Jesus says in Mat 7:22-23 that many false followers and believers even thought they are doers of miracles, castout demons, and prophecied will be rejected because they practice lawlessness(anomia). In the Type the "lawlessness" were cut off from Israel because only law amen individuals can be aa kingdom of Priest and holy nation.

This is what Jesus is looking for as qualification to be fit to be part of His body(=the 144K aka the firstfruits aka the barley company who are part of the first harvest). The firstfruits are only a remnant who will agree & obey His Laws(Torah) and will have them written in their heart and will know the mind of the Law-Giver so to be able to rule the nations with Jesus and bring the nations the right judgment to settle conflicts according to Jesus Laws and according to His mind. Also the Type shows the Priests are to minister to the Lord and to the nations teaching them the Laws.

However the wheat company(the church or believers) and the grape company(the unbelievers) will also be harvested later on in the seasons just as the Type shows in the Law. All the fruits of the 3 harvests make it to be served at the Lords table. Since we SDAs have nailed the Laws to the cross like any other denomination, we are totally ignorant of that and think that there's only one harvest.

Basically most of our doctrines have no law/Type bases because are forefathers didn't study the Law either; thus creating so many man-made teachings which was equated as vomit in Is 28. Without the Law as our guide, then it is merely impossible for us to know the truth.(Is 8:20, Deut 13 & Deut 18). They have been serving us that vomit for so long that we came quite accustom to it. But fresh bread is much better for us.

Actually, she is doing what you are doing. Both of you reject part of God's word because it doesn't suit your ideas.

I will sooner reject my ideas than God's word.

No that's not true. I have the laws behind me which is the foundation of all truth. To understand the Prophets or the NT, you need to start at the Laws. All truth or beliefs or so claimed prophets needs to be tested against the foundation(Laws). I started to lay down some of the laws that proves the Lord's coming Judgments which you have totally rejected and stuck to men's teachings(vomit).

I gave a bunch of OT quotes(close to 30) and only one NT text(by which I mentioned there's over 60 more). You needed to twist that one NT text by taking a translation that said what you want it to say and did not seek the real root word definition. You weren't interested to see the 60 others texts. You clearly showed that your mind is to support your own beliefs(heart idols see Ez 14) and you are not interested in truly studying and finding The Lords truth.

A true seeker of the Truth takes ALL scriptures into account and will not discard any that oppose what they think is the Lord's truth. No man today have the total picture and understanding how the Lord will bring "restitution of all things"(Acts 3:21). However, by rejecting scriptures especially the Laws and twisting them will only give you vomit and not some clean morsel of fresh bread.

AV 1Ti 2:4 Who will have [thelo, to determine) all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Many eat vomit today, however the text above says that the Lord will have all men eating clean pure fresh bread one day.

A decision can only be as good as the current information we had to make that decision. When new vital information comes known, often these past decisions are viewed as not good or invalid because of the lack of vital info. The text above relates salvation with the knowledge of truth. Today "truth" is all grey for Man has discarded the light (prophetic Torah foundation). The Lord will come to our rescue by fulfilling prophecies according to His word and proving all man's theories wrong. At the same time He will rain down His Holy Spirit and bring most to repentance. This day is coming very soon.

Kland is right you are guilty of doing what you accuse him of doing.

No that's not true. I have the laws behind me which is the foundation of all truth.

Kland is right you are guilty of doing what you accuse him of doing.