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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
[Re: James Peterson]
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08/14/13 02:54 PM
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What about the New Jerusalem that is presently located in Heaven where the Tree of Life is located and that Enoch, Elijah, etc. are eating from?
What about that same New Jerusalem after it moves from Heaven to this planet, even before the planet is made into a New Earth?
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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
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2) The "Earth" was formed on Day 3, and the "Heaven" was made on Day 2.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
That is why it is written, "in the beginning, God created" both and they were at that time, at the very start of the week at the moment of their creation, a single primordial dark mass, out of which God later separated and populated them. Kindly read the rest of the first chapter of Genesis to see the work of God, please. .... ...
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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
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08/14/13 03:01 PM
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Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Gen. 1:2 And the earth was without form and empty. And darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved on the face of the waters. Seems to me that there may have been an unknown space of time between when the heavens and the earth were created to when God returned to this formless and empty earth to turn it into an inhabitable planet and create life on it, as in Adam & Eve.
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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
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08/14/13 05:34 PM
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Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Gen. 1:2 And the earth was without form and empty. And darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved on the face of the waters. Seems to me that there may have been an unknown space of time between when the heavens and the earth were created to when God returned to this formless and empty earth to turn it into an inhabitable planet and create life on it, as in Adam & Eve.  "The KJV is the best translation, except when it conflicts with the doctrine I want to prove. Then another says it better." --- SDA .... ..
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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
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08/14/13 05:42 PM
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Where it is written, "IN THE BEGINNING", it is speaking of the beginning of the week, the FIRST WEEK of what was going to become our universe.
In the beginning of the week ....
At the start of the week ...
And on the first day, ...
Then on the second day, ....
Then on the third day, ....
And so forth.
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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
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08/14/13 05:47 PM
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The earth was already in existence before creation week. Life on earth may have been created 6000 years ago, but the earth is at least 6000+ years old. Gen. 1 doesn't say so. It says in the beginning, that is: from the start of day 1, God created "heaven and earth" and it was a primordial mass in darkness. And out of that mass, he separated out the heaven, and the earth too. In heaven, he created the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, he created plants, animals and man. Then on the Sabbath day, he spent a whole day with his children in his garden. And he loved it. He said, "Let us do this EVERY WEEK." What is the definition of heaven and what is the definition of earth as defined by Genesis 1. Heaven? That would be Gen. 1:8 And the Earth? Well, that would be Gen. 1:10 ... .. Ge 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. {And the evening...:
Ge 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
God created "heaven and earth" and it was a primordial mass in darkness.
So God created the firmament and he created the dry land. So why do you think He created the planet earth on that day?
2) The "Earth" was formed on Day 3, and the "Heaven" was made on Day 2.
Blessings,
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That is why it is written, "in the beginning, God created" both and they were at that time, at the very start of the week at the moment of their creation, a single primordial dark mass, out of which God later separated and populated them. What were the waters residing on in verse 2? When were the waters created?
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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
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08/14/13 05:49 PM
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Where it is written, "IN THE BEGINNING", it is speaking of the beginning of the week, the FIRST WEEK of what was going to become our universe.
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If you object to the KJV saying it correctly, what version do you use to get that idea?
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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
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08/14/13 06:47 PM
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Where it is written, "IN THE BEGINNING", it is speaking of the beginning of the week, the FIRST WEEK of what was going to become our universe.
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If you object to the KJV saying it correctly, what version do you use to get that idea? ??? What are you talking about? ..... ..
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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
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08/14/13 07:34 PM
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So God created the firmament and he created the dry land.
So why do you think He created the planet earth on that day?
What were the waters residing on in verse 2? When were the waters created? Reading the Psalms won't hurt. It sheds light on the matter.
GOD ...
5 Who laid the foundations of the earth,
that it should not be removed for ever.
6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment:
the waters stood above the mountains.
7 At thy rebuke they fled;
at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys
unto the place which thou hast founded for them.
9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over;
that they turn not again to cover the earth.
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Re: Deep Universe: Hubble's Universe Unfiltered
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08/14/13 10:03 PM
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Compare the following:
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
In the beginning in Genesis 1 doesn't necessarily mean the beginning of the week, but the beginning of creating something, but what is in the beginning referring to in John 1?
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