Hi Daryl, I started a reply to this buy got distracted with other topics. I wish I had more time. I'll be answering this next as time permits.

Thought it was time to bump this for further study.

There is warning --


"The prophet Isaiah brings to view the fearful deception which will come upon the wicked, causing them to count themselves secure from the judgments of God: “We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us; for we have made lies our refuge, and under the falsehood have we hid ourselves.” [Isaiah 28:15.]

"In the class here described are included those who in their stubborn impenitence comfort themselves with the assurance that there is to be no punishment for the sinner; that all mankind, it matters not how corrupt, are to be exalted to Heaven, to become as the angels of God. But still more emphatically are those making a covenant with death and an agreement with hell, who renounce the truths which Heaven has provided as a defense for the righteous in the day of trouble, and accept the refuge of lies offered by Satan in its stead,— the delusive pretensions of Spiritualism. {GC88 560.3}


Satan has long been preparing for his final effort to deceive the world. The foundation of his work was laid by the assurance given to Eve in Eden, “Ye shall not surely die.” “In the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” [Genesis 3:4, 5.]

Little by little he has prepared the way for his master-piece
of deception in the development of Spiritualism. He has not yet reached the full accomplishment of his designs; but it will be reached in the last remnant of time. Says the prophet: “I saw three unclean spirits like frogs; . . . they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.” [Revelation 16:13, 14.] Except those who are kept by the power of God, through faith in his Word, the whole world will be swept into the ranks of this delusion. The people are fast being lulled to a fatal security, to be awakened only by the outpouring of the wrath of God. {GC88 561.2}

Saith the Lord God: “Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet; and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding-place. And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.” [Isaiah 28:17, 18.] {GC88 562.1}

"Satan says to the world: "No matter how wicked you are; no matter whether you believe or disbelieve God and the Bible. Live as you please; heaven is your home." The spiritualist teachers virtually declare: "Everyone that doeth evil is good in the sight of the Lord, and He delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?" Malachi 2:17. {GC 556.3}

I'll get back to this later.

I am glad you bumped this one, as it is relevant to some posts in another active thread.

From March of 2012. Well, maybe it was just an oversight, and it got lost, and she's busy, and time doesn't permit, and

I had studied it and worked up a partial replied but then other discussions came up. This been a long time and I have to find where I put this study. Daryl's old question is not the reason this was bumped. But I will get to it later on.

Asygo is the one that bumped it as he didn't want to hijak another discussion where this point was brought indirectly to another point by which Asygo also did ignore after saying to Kland he doesn't take the word of the Lord as it reads. He himself did the same and did not look to see if the Law said what I said it said versus that other discussion. Since Asygo ignored my point I have drop that point from the other discussion for he didn't care to study it or interested in it and rather go around and around with the typical arguments we see in all the discussions of that type.

Now Asygo since you bump this, and I do hope you will put some effort in studying this by putting your idols aside(Ez 14) and really seek to hear the word of the Lord in what He wants to tell us with the law of Jubilee.

The Law of Jubille is the ultimate Sabbath message by which us SDAs should be expert on. That's another thing that everyone is ignoring in this forum is to understand the other sabbaths describe in the law and its relationship with the 7th day sabbath. I have brought that bait out at least 5 times up to now in various discusion as it is something I'm meditating on and looking to study it more in debt and my reason to be here with your help to study things. However, no ones wants to study it or wants to know about it. Everyone is satisfied with a superficial limited knowledge of the Sabbath by which the 7th day sabbath show the lowest level meaning of it. There's more but no one is interested for they think what they know is all they need to know. At least we do not lie when we say we are the Laodiciean Church. Right!

Asygo when reading the law of Jubille (in Lev 25) remember the law is spiritual and prophetic. Try to go beyond the literal meaning. The Holy Spirit can show you the spiritual side of it. Read it and tell me what the Lord is saying through it about what He's going to fulfill.

You can find a study of the law of Jubilee on page 1 of this discussion Post #138330.

Having momentarily pushed some of my cherished and surprisingly heavy idols aside, I've looked a bit into this topic, but haven't really spent much time on it. The idea that everyone will be saved seems directly contradictory to Christ's own words:
Matthew 7:13-14
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

That's a rather large idol for me. Before I invest too much time and effort into this, I need a good explanation of how it fits with those verses. Can you give me a concise argument that fits your idea of the Jubilee with Matt 7:13-14?

The narrow gate is the firstfruits....only a small group. In the law only the asses redeemed with a lamb were redeemed...the asses not redeemed needed to have their neck broken(destroyed). Israel(mother Egypt) was the first born of the Lord like Ishmael(mother Hagar who was Egyptian) was the first born of Abraham. Ishmael was said to be a wild ass, Israel was said to be a wild ass. How many of Israel crossed the promised land at the feast of Tabernacle? None. Only Joshua and another had faith to cross, but all the rest did not have ears(=faith Rom 10:14) to cross.

We're all asses but not all the asses will be redeemed. In the law of Jubilee, many are not redeemed and they have to work to pay off their debt.

If what you say is true, then why worry about God at all? Why not eat, drink and be merry, die, be raised again, work off the debt and settle down to a nice life forever? What is the point of acting contrary to the natural inclinations of the heart to live selfishly?

Why preach the gospel? Why even think about God? Why go to Church? Everyone is going to live forever doing what he or she wants to do. Yeah? At least, according to you.
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