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Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: Green Cochoa] #156027
09/12/13 01:49 AM
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Overall, eggs help to improve one's cholesterol status.

Go plant based, HDL goes down. Eat junk, HDL goes up. An easy way to raise your HDL, eat a pound of butter. Great, right? not. HDL is the garbage trucks of the blood. More junk, higher HDL.

I think Green did not watch the science presentation above.


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Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: APL] #156029
09/12/13 01:54 AM
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Carcinogenic Retrovirus Found in Eggs HERE

I hate it when my eggs are filled with retroviruses. But how will you ever know?


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Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: APL] #156030
09/12/13 01:59 AM
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APL,

My internet connection does not do well with video. You're right, I did not watch it. In fact, my browser required a plugin that I apparently do not have in order to do so. I will not be able to watch it anytime soon.

But you apparently have not heard that HDL is good for you. Your body makes it, of course. Why?

Did you know that you have cholesterol in every cell of your body? Without it, your cell membranes would break down. Their two bilipid layers could not be held together without cholesterol. So why do you call cholesterol "the garbage trucks of the blood?"

Cholesterol is not the problem. The problem is one's diet and lifestyle. Cholesterol, especially HDL, is beneficial. But if you eat garbage, it is true that cholesterol may be required to help deal with the mess. It's not cholesterol's fault.

I, for one, would like to know what would happen to the person who ate a pound of butter who didn't see a rise in his or her cholesterol level. I suspect the result would be worse.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: Green Cochoa] #156032
09/12/13 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: green
But you apparently have not heard that HDL is good for you. Your body makes it, of course. Why?
did you read my post above???


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Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: APL] #156035
09/12/13 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: green
But you apparently have not heard that HDL is good for you. Your body makes it, of course. Why?
did you read my post above???

You make the claim that the body makes cholesterol because of eating "junk." I will make a counterclaim: Your body will make cholesterol even if you are on a perfect diet, and eat of the Tree of Life.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: Green Cochoa] #156039
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Originally Posted By: green
You make the claim that the body makes cholesterol because of eating "junk." I will make a counterclaim: Your body will make cholesterol even if you are on a perfect diet, and eat of the Tree of Life.
Interesting how you see black and white. What did I say? I said, HDL will go up if you eat junk. Where in my comments are your "counterclaim" relevant? It is true, one does not need to eat ANY cholesterol, for the body will make all it needs. But for the sake of argument, you imply that I say that it does not? Really, are you counter claims fair? NO.


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Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: APL] #156052
09/13/13 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
HDL is the garbage trucks of the blood. More junk, higher HDL.

I guess I was cuing off of the above where you seemed to think HDL was good only for dealing with garbage. The accompanying thought with such a claim is that HDL would be unneeded, and/or not produced, if no "junk" were eaten.

Since you are now backpedaling somewhat from that and admit that HDL would be produced without eating "junk," perhaps my earlier response was based on insufficient information regarding your viewpoint.

The fact is: HDL is good. Some people have HDL levels that are too low. Too much of a good thing is also bad. Everything in moderation. But HDL is not a "problem" for most people. If anything, it is a big part of the "solution" when it comes to dealing with fats in the body.

The ratio of HDL to LDL is the important figure, scientists say. Eggs have a 2:1 HDL to LDL ratio, which is opposite the 1:2 ratio normally present in our body. The less HDL per LDL we have, the higher our risks of heart disease, atherosclerosis, etc. So eggs give us a boost on improving our ratio. In this aspect, eggs can hardly be demonized as they have often been.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: Green Cochoa] #156056
09/13/13 04:08 AM
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Backpedaling? Only in your black and white world, of implying things I never said. Please, eat all the eggs you want! It is your choice, you are free to choose.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: Green Cochoa] #156080
09/13/13 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
Yes, you can get vitamin D made in your skin while in the presence of sunshine. However, the majority of Americans are vitamin D deficient. It's causing a host of problems, which is why the USDA is adding vitamin D to a number of "fortified" foods.
And why are the majority (=translated=> less than 25%) of Americans not getting their vitamin D?

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Cholesterol is not the problem. The problem is one's diet and lifestyle. Cholesterol, especially HDL, is beneficial.
Yes, diet and lifestyle is the heart of the problem.


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Sodium. I personally do not get enough sodium much of the time. (I just happened to have added about 1/3 teaspoon of salt to my soup last night because I felt a craving for it.

There you go!

I see.

I want.

I take.


And that is the heart of the problem!


You want eggs. Take them.
You want salt. Take it.
You want meat. Take it.
You want to kill. Kill. And translate it not as murder...

Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: kland] #156127
09/15/13 01:06 AM
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Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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