I think the thing to do in studying either Scripture or the Spirit of Prophesy is to look for the underlying principles involved. When one understands a principle, one can apply it to another situation.

Well a good point regarding studying SOP is our Friday study of the Great Controversy. That in itself is a blessing, and I have learned alot of things from that i.e. early church, Jerusalems destruction, reformers etc. I dont doubt the value of it for 1 second and studying that way.
I appreciate your post about the historical preteristic, and futurism interpretations and the churches in Revelation.
MountainMan I appreciate your comments and definitely clearing things up.
God Bless,
Will

Thanks Will. I agree that's a good way to study the SOP. In any study it is good to keep in mind the principles of the Great Controversy. She tells us that no truth can be properly understood unless its relation to Calvary is understood, which says to me we need to keep in mind the big picture, regardless of the individual topic.

Okay, back to the original question. I believe a lukewarm Laodicean Adventist is in an unsaved state. Their case is not hopeless, but if they refuse to buy the things Jesus counseled them to buy then in the end they will be lost.

As to whether or not the counsel to the Laodicean Church applies only to the Remnant Church, that is, the SDA Church, is something that could be studied on a new thread. What do you think?

MountainMan,

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I believe a lukewarm Laodicean Adventist is in an unsaved state. Their case is not hopeless, but if they refuse to buy the things Jesus counseled them to buy then in the end they will be lost.

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As to whether or not the counsel to the Laodicean Church applies only to the Remnant Church, that is, the SDA Church, is something that could be studied on a new thread. What do you think?

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A new thread needs to and will be created covering the following. Let me know if separate ones are needed, or maybe we can lump it into one thread.

1. What is an Adventist
2. How do we know the church of Laodecia is the last church in history?
3. How do we know the Laodecian message is for SDA's only if its the last church in history?

What do you all think?
God Bless,
Will

1 and 2 seem trivial to me. An "Adventist" as the term has been being used on this forum is a Seventh-day Adventist, and the Laodicen church is the last church by virture of the fact that there are only 7 churches listed. Actually, this topic could involve quite a lot if it included the question as to whether the shaking would include faithful followers of Christ leaving SDAism, or if the shaking means the faithful will remain in the SDA church, but I don't know if that's what you had in mind.

So maybe two new threads would be good. One on whether Laodicea is the last church (and the ancilliary issues this could include) and whether Laodicea refers exclusively to SDA's.

Hi Tom,
I felt it necessary to suggest #1 for the fact that people who are not SDA's visit this forum, and the name Seventh-Day Adventist means Christians who keep the Seventh-Day Sabbath Holy that God created, awaiting the Second Advent of Jesus Christ, so by definition an Adventist (with out the 7th day) is one who is awiting the 2nd coming of Christ. This puts all Christians in that group like it or not .
With that part covered we would then be able to put together something that idntifies the remnant etc etc etc. #1 is trivial for me, and #2 I would like to study more about, and am going to look at some sources and find out where this came from etc etc.
God Bless,
Will

Ok, Will. Thanks for the clarification.

Is a lukewarm Laodicean in a saved state?

First off -- I think the question as stated is good question, trying to narrow it down to a denomination is making it too narrow.

Is a lukewarm Laodicean in a saved state?

No --
if they stay in the lukewarm state they will be "spit out".

They must apply the remedy which the Laodicean message brings.


--Repent

--Buy
robe of Christ's righteness
the pure gold of faith and love
the eye salve to descern spiritual truths

--INVITE
Christ into your everyday life for a vital living relationship. He will come in and sit and dine with you!

He that overcomes will continue this wonderful relationship and sit with Christ throughout eternity!