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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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A good reason not to get hung on a common pigeonhole with certain brethren?
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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Jesus doesn't mince words. To obey is to live. Disobey and die. No threats. Just truth. Fair.
Exodus
20:2 I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;
20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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Where in your quote does it say God will kill the sinner?
There is no question, sinners will die. HOW is the question.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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To whom does He visit mercy? And how?
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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Elder G Vandeman used this illustration:
You have some boards and some nails, and there is nothing else.
You nail those boards together in a special way and you have a box. Pull the nails out abd the box has disappeared.
So you have a human body in one place and a living spirit elsewher. Only when those two are united you have a living soul, or a person.
Just like an eltric current it needs a line to connect to the body. If it is disconnected, or wears thin and breaks
That living spirit comes only from one source.
Just like an elecric current the living spirit needs a connecting line to the bod
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"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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I could neither change nor delete the above post, and the words kept jumping back and forth. Is that how some of understand this?
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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To whom does He visit mercy? And how? {DA 471.3}
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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To whom does He visit mercy? And how? I think what you are saying is like when an attacker is raping a woman and she pleads for mercy and her attacker stops and lets her go. If God is giving mercy then that can only mean He is the one causing the harm. Is that why you are saying, that the only time you can give mercy is if you are causing what you will give the mercy for?
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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So you have a human body in one place and a living spirit elsewhere. Only when those two are united you have a living soul, or a person. Hm - what would Carsten Johnsen say about that?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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