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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #157802
10/31/13 11:14 PM
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I have some good news and some bad news. This post will cover some of the good news. Many groups and individuals have been setting up alternative systems to by-pass the New World Order/Mystery Babylon/Cabal/1% Elites(whatever you want to call them) system that today’s world is so dependable on.

I’m just going to list 3 major and most important systems, but there are more good system in the making that is about to be activated to make a smooth transition between the corrupt system of Mystery Babylon to another alternative system until the world(or the Lord) chooses a better one.

1. New (or reformed) Global world Bank System : There are a group of people that are currently working for BIS, IMF, and other World Bank structure that have whistleblower on the corruption and unlawful practices of Mystery Babylon opperating these world Bank structures. Karen Hughes is one major whistleblower joined with many others to restructure the World banking system and bring the system back into lawful order. I have posted many of her interviews here in this discussion(post #152401 , post #152637 , post #152890 , post #153535 ).

Here’s a very recent interview that Karen elaborates on what’s is currently taking place. She is saying that soon there will be a major turn around of the Bank System back to lawful practices and order.

Karen Hudes 10-20-13… “U.S. Has to Come Around to the Rule of Law”

Oct 20, 2013

“…Karen Hudes says, “The U.S. has to come around to the rule of law. . . . and we are on track with a 95% likelihood, and that is why I think the dollar is not going to tank.”

Join Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com as he goes One-on-One with former Senior Counsel for the World Bank, Karen Hudes…”


2. A New Universal Credit Rating Group : Dominique De villepin, former French president, has been working with the Chinese to form a new Credit Rating Agency that is not bought or run by Mystery Babylon. Here’s a link to post #153537 and link where Matt Taibbi that explain how the curren...on ponzi scheme and are falsely over rating those married to Babylon and under-rating those that are not.

Also, I have posted the video of Max Keiser talking about Dominique De Villepin Universal Credit Rating Group post #157441.

Here’s another news report about it :
The world needs new, non-US-centric rating agency: Dominique de Villepin
http://www.scmp.com/business/economy/art...que-de-villepin

Monday, 28 October, 2013
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The Big Three rating agencies have largely failed in their ability to appropriately assess risk worldwide.
The consequences of this failure stem from their having a predominantly US-centric perspective of the global economy.
But a new financial order is in the making, one in which the West is now losing its privileges.
The United States acquired its power after the second world war by becoming a net creditor internationally. It was able to dominate the old European powers, impoverished by successive wars.
The first of these privileges has been the control of currency.
When the US abandoned the gold standard, the US dollar became the world's de facto means of exchange. Those with the power to decide the value of the dollar have taken full advantage of it - and have used its global ubiquity to fund the accumulation of vast amounts of debt.
The US is now the world's largest debtor and its citizens the world's consumers of last resort.
The West's second historical privilege has been its control of the rules in financial markets, despite often reckless deregulation.
About 95 per cent of all credit ratings are given by the Big Three rating agencies: Standard & Poor's, Fitch and Moody's. Photos: Reuters, EPA
It is much easier to win a game when you are deciding the rules. It is even easier if you can change the rules during the game and according to your needs.
The Opium Wars, the break-up of China, the British Raj and the continent of Africa torn between European countries in the late 1800s are all good examples of historical privilege taken to excess.
The third privilege has been risk.
The West invented risk and controls risk. It decides what is risky and what is not. To a large extent, it has also been the sole arbiter of where money should go and where it should not.
Funds have, in fact, been directed towards projects in the West by undervaluing the risk of default there and then exaggerating those same risks in places such as China, India, Brazil and elsewhere.
There is a reason for this.
With about 95 per cent of all credit ratings under their control, the three major agencies are not only concentrated in the US, but also imposing an unrealistic template - culturally and ideologically - on the rest of the world.
But the world has changed in many respects.
The US and Europe are net debtors and the Asia-Pacific a net creditor. More than ever, we need to find a new imperative for responsible financial governance.
For the West, this means putting its fiscal house in order. For emerging economies, it means creating new tools to both shape and legitimise decision-making.
The illumination of information is essential and credit ratings bring invaluable perspectives about where money is being lent and what the chances are of it being paid back on time and in full. Investors do not like to work in the dark. But who can they trust? Those who say we have to live without light? Or those who say: "Why don't we light a lamp somewhere and take a closer look?"
This pressing need to provide the market with more competition where investors require it is precisely the reason to create a new global credit ratings agency in Asia, with new and innovative tools, including broader and more finely nuanced ratings criteria designed to be more rigorous and more detailed than those offered by the Big Three.
Despite the failings of the incumbents, rating agencies play an essential role in the world's financial architecture. The more credit assessment there is, the greater the transparency, depth and liquidity of capital markets.
And that is especially true in regions of the world where the development of new industries and infrastructure projects are most needed and their funding and risk assessment required.
Let the Big Three continue to offer their largely US-centric view of the world. But give investors the freedom to seek other opinions: to increase transparency, to provide a counter-point to Wall Street prejudices, and to create a new dimension in the constant search for capital allocation.
In summary, the financial crisis has marked the beginning of a worldwide revolution that will ultimately see the end of unwarranted economic privilege.
Dominique de Villepin, a former French prime minister, is chairman of the International Advisory Council, Universal Credit Rating Group



3. Bitcoin system : Bitcoin allows payment transaction between individual or between companies, all over the world with high encrypt system making it extremely secure and without the involvement of any Banking system with little fees. Bitcoin has grown over the past 10 years, have been recognize worldwide as a very valid, useful, and highly safe system. Canada has implemented their first Bitcoin machines in Vancouver and by December will add machines in all the major cities.

Here’s some info about Bitcoin.
http://www.bitcoin.com/


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #157810
11/01/13 01:30 AM
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The above post is just the tip of the iceberg of all the good news, but the 3 above will have the most impact for a smooth transition.

Now is to bring about the bad news….....

let’s don’t lose sight of the good news and the fact that the Lord has everything in control. We need to trust in His plan and wisdom. He has told us that He will bring down Mystery Babylon so we will not be taken by surprise. What we are seeing is His great work.

Just past September, we saw that the world leaders did not buy Mystery Babylon’s false flag of blaming Assad for the chemical attack so they could launch World War III. The Lord intervened by given Putin, Russian's Leader, wisdom to divert that war. Mystery Babylon knows that their time is almost over and cannot deceive the world leaders into their tricks anymore. It is only a question of time before the Kings of the East (China, Russia, Brazil, South Africa, India, Indonesia, and over 130+ allied countries) will completely bring the West Empire(US, Canada, UK, France, etc) run by Mystery Babylon down.

So since they know they have little time, they will desperatly pull all they have right now to try to keep their power over the world and bring the New world order by instigating chaos and fear in the mass.

We should expect that many false flags are in the making and we need to be aware of it so we can prepare and be a light amongst those that are unaware of what is happening.


Here’s the following potential coming False Flags :

1. Banking and Economic collapse : Many economist have been predicting a world wide Banking system collapse because it is totally unsustainable. Despite these numerous warnings, the Lord has put Lindsay Williams Chaplin Pastor for the Alyeska Pipeline Company in Alaska where by providence was rubbing shoulders with the elites and have kept friendship with a few. Through the years they have been informing him of their plans. Last May, Lindsay was informed of a coming Bank collapse that Mystery Babylon will orchestrate to bring the mass in total ruin and in need of food, water, and basic needs so they will beg Mystery Babylon to come to their rescue. That’s the plan. This past May interview is available at post #152654 .

In that interview last May, Lindsey wasn't given a date but just of warning of the coming collapse. Just a few weeks ago, Lindsey’s Elite friend told him a date schedule Nov 17th according to the signs of JP Morgan Chase Bank annoncement.

Here’s the latest video of it :

What I understand is that Lindsay says that Nov 17th is only the beginning of the Bank collapse. But he says that the worse of it is the coming implementation of the new obamacare system in January.

Let’s keep in mind that the Lord can intervene and has intervene and divert any of Mystery Babylon’s plans. However we do not know the level of chaos that they will bring about and we need to be prepare so we can minimize the fear in the people and bring the good news that the Lord’s Kingdom is the next kingdom that will be in place according to Daniel 2 & 7.


JP Morgan Chase Bank has sent to all their customers a letter telling them that on Nov 17th, they will limit international wire and monthly transactions. This can be more than what they are letting on. In case, there’s more, let’s remember that you do have another alternative to do transactions with Bitcoins. See the post links above for more details.

Lindsey says that he things that Nov 17 us the date as the Cabals will always warn the people before it happens. We saw what they pulled with Syprus saying the week before that everything was fine, and they close the bank on everyone and did their IN-BAILING withdrawal of the peoples savings.
We do not know what will happen, but it doesn’t hurt to be prepare by not leaving much money in the bank and take these words of warnings.

2. A National Blackout as a False Flag : On Aug 27th Janet Napolitano of DHS(Former US. Homeland Security Secretary) warns of a "serious" cyber attack or unprecedented natural disaster in her resignation speech (see Outgoing DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano ...atural Disaster)

Remember, Mystery Babylon golden rule before conducting an action, is to warn the public of their plans in some form.

Another warning has come recently from Fox news mainstream media letting people know that there may be a potential US/Canada nationwide blackout & grid shutdown that can result by a cyber attack. That our national grid is very susceptible and it only takes one person to create a national chaos.

Fox news is interviewing Aton Edwards, expert in Disaster preparedness who help National Geographic prepare the film entitled “American Blackout” that will be aired this Sunday nationwide.

Here’s the Fox News clip about the coming film on TV:


Here’s the National Geographic Video Clip :
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/155680/American_Blackout_2013_Documentary/

Now, if this happens, remember this is a false flag set up to blame the Syrian government or Iranians government for this so to give themselves the green light to strike them in the World War they have been wanting to start for many years. Having the people in a crisis and having no electricity, will allow them to act immediately without their say.

It is speculated that this will happen just before the Banking collapse potential schedule on November 17, having some people suggesting around November 14 .

All of these are speculation. No one knows what Mystery Babylon will pull in their last hours, however, it would be wise to take heed of the warnings as they have issued 2 warnings and this is how they have operated in the past.

Because this is their last efforts, I do expect they will pull many things on the people at once; if it's in the Lord's plan. The Lord has His own plan in this and might work through Mystery Babylon last plan to some extend to bring awareness about how brainwashed we have become by Mystery Babylon. We do not know what will happen, to what extend it will happen, and how long it will happen.

The best way to prepare is to have food, water, and the bare necessities. Seeking the Lord guidance will be the only safe haven through this. In all of this, let's rejoice because this is the last of Mystery Babylon's manipulation we probably will witness.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #158019
11/05/13 01:16 PM
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Benjamin Fulford cross examines Karen Hudes

My comment : Here's an interview dated around Sept 28 that has just been released to the public. It's quite informative as both Karen and Benjamin has information from two differents source circle. Karen, Lawyer at the World Bank for 20 years, being very active in bringing the world bank back to the rule of law. Herself, and a group(over 150) working at the World Bank, are actively removing the corruption in the system which means no more Federal reserve(private Banked owned by the Cabals) and no more Jesuits, and no more of any other secret societies. Total transparencies is the aim with the new system that they want to simplify to a level that it would be impossible for any greedy group that wants to dominate can do the same as it was done with the Federal Reserve/US dollar and previous dominating empires in the world history.

Not one system, but a framework so to allow multiple systems to co-exist and compete letting countries figure out what works best.

She basically says that the Cabals(Mystery Babylon) are over and done with. However, multiple little factions that where operating with Mystery Babylon still wants to bargain their way to retain a little piece of the pie. But Karen says, NO -- no deals is going to be cut with any of them. She says they are not going to pull marshall law in the US or other schemes they have in their trick bag.

It will be interesting to see what the Lord will work out this coming months for He is in control and He will fulfill His prophecies and all His words spoken to Moses and His prophets.

Benjamin Fulford cross examines Karen Hudes (part1)
http://thaddle.com/m/videos/view/Benjamin-Fulford-cross-examines-Karen-Hudes-part1

Benjamin Fulford cross examines Karen Hudes (part2)
http://thaddle.com/m/videos/view/Benjamin-Fulford-cross-examines-Karen-Hudes-28part-2-29


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #158659
11/23/13 09:19 PM
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My Comment: This is it. Get ready for the transition into the new system.

Harbinger: 23 countries begin setting up swap lines to bypass dollar

http://www.examiner.com/article/harbinger-23-countries-begin-setting-up-swap-lines-to-bypass-dollar

November 18, 2013
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For several years, financial analysts, primarily those outside the mainstream of academia, have been warning that any day could be the black swan event that collapses the dollar, and ends U.S. hegemony as caretaker of the world's reserve currency. That day has finally arrived as on Nov. 18, a former head trader for a major financial institution issued a harbinger and stated that 23 countries, and 60% of the world's GDP, are right now setting up new swap lines which bypass the dollar, SWIFT, and the BIS, and will usher in a new global currency system which will kill the dollar.

“The thoughts that are put into the minds of men that are aware of what is occurring on trading floors all over the world is when? When is also the question that I get asked about quite often by thousands of people. So what is the “when”? The “when” is what is the sure sign that this fraudulent sham that we call an economy is over? Folks the biggest sign is when those that trade in the dollar to acquire goods, no longer want the worthless paper because of US “bully” policies or they have totally lost faith in the US as a responsible steward of it’s currency and economy. That day has arrived.

“All over the world economies that have not totally shot themselves in the foot by gambling in the Anglo-American casino are now moving to set up various currency exchanges by passing the dollar. - Rogue Money via Steve Quayle Q Alerts

The list of the 23 countries which are creating new swap lines outside of the dollar include China, Russia, India, and surprisingly, Germany, France, and the United Kingdom. This means that the Eurozone itself is abandoning the dollar, and preparing for transition to a new central banking system.

To facilitate the transfer of currencies and swap lines, there needs to be a bank of sufficient size and stature to aid in handling of this monumental task. One year ago, China, along with the BRICs nations of Brazil, Russia, India and South Africa, loaned money to a new financial institution they established and labeled the BRICs bank. This bank was created with the intention of bypassing the dollar, and allowing free trade to occur between nations without the need to trade for dollars first, as is currently the format under the petrodollar system. In fact, the new BRICs bank will function both as a bank of international settlement, as well as a lender of last resort, eliminating the need for the BIS and IMF, which currently reside under dollar dominion.

The only thing that stands in the way of the world's final rejection of the dollar is the wavering trust that Saudi Arabia and OPEC have with the U.S. in assuring oil transactions remain denominated in dollars under the 1970's Petrodollar agreement. But as the world has seen recently, even the Saudi kingdom is hedging towards a new global system, and has publicly stated that their ties to the U.S. are open for re-negotiation.

What started in September of last year, when an agreement between China and Russia ended the dollar's stranglehold over oil and how it was purchased, the past 14 months have seen a momentous rush towards setting up the infrastructure to replace the dollar completely in global transactions. And with 23 countries, including those from the BRICs nations and the Eurozone, preparing for new swap lines outside of dollar hegemony, the fuse has been lit on the dollar's death rattle, and the when has changed into the now.



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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #158714
11/25/13 02:08 PM
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Bitcoins - When you trace the dollar back, it was originally backed by gold. Something that had intrinsic value - although, maybe not much, it did have value.

When you trace the 'bitcoin' back, do you find something of value? Or value only in someone's imagination?

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: kland] #158717
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Originally Posted By: kland
Bitcoins - When you trace the dollar back, it was originally backed by gold. Something that had intrinsic value - although, maybe not much, it did have value. When you trace the 'bitcoin' back, do you find something of value? Or value only in someone's imagination?

smile

All currency is based on the arbitrary value attributed to it by agreement. In your house, you can choose to trade in stone. To those outside, it would be a worthless piece of junk; but for you, your future satisfaction would be directly proportional to the amount of stone currently in your possession.

The interesting thing about the Kingdom of God however, is that it has no monetary policy. Currency is completely alien to its domain. Instead, all things are freely given; and what a man does not have but wishes for, is his to receive in due time without covetousness. In that Kingdom, LOVE makes the world go around. The principle underlying its foundation is that all things belong to God, and God has chosen to share everything he has with his children. (Luke 22:24-30)

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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: James Peterson] #158786
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However, there is value/substance to a stone. You can build with it, break open nuts, etc. Maybe not much value, maybe more value to those who have no stones, but of what inherit value is there to the imaginary bitcoin?

"The interesting thing about the Kingdom of God however, is that it has no monetary policy. "
I take it you are not in agreement with Elle on this thread?

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: kland] #158855
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Originally Posted By: kland
However, there is value/substance to a stone. You can build with it, break open nuts, etc. Maybe not much value, maybe more value to those who have no stones, but of what inherit value is there to the imaginary bitcoin?

It's backed by local currency. You have to buy it using local currency.

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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: James Peterson] #158858
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Currency! LOL. You mean, fiat currency.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: APL] #158865
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Originally Posted By: APL
Currency! LOL. You mean, fiat currency.

https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/

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