I have two questions for you which you are not bound to answer.

1. Are you a recent convert to SDA?
2. Are you a teenager?

You are frightfully naive and gullible! I suggest you have a long conversation with your pastor, join the Pathfinders Club and go on camps, visit as many SDA churches as possible. It would do you good.

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Then it would be wise to refrain from commenting on matters of which you have no idea. I thought your comments were the result of careful thought and analysis. My bad.

Naive and gullible?

I do not boast in how many churches I have visited. Or for how many churches I helped plant.

I have been a Seventh Day Adventist since God led me directly to the Sabbath and the SDA church by miracles and the Spirit of Prophecy in 1995. 18 years of intense devotion.

God gave me visions and dreams that were exactly like the visions and dreams He gave Mrs White as a sign to my heart that He is behind all of her writings. Before I read her writings I had the visions and dreams then I read her writings exactly like God showed me, would this not touch your heart as a sign? Probably not.

I was shown directly by God that Mrs White was led by Him to help establish the remnant church. I don't need any luke warm apostate to teach me anything about the Spirit of Prophecy, God has done all I need on that point. And I also will not be given counsel by any worldly pastor who thinks they know better than what is recorded in the Testimonies.

God has led me to take on such apostate pastors and people like you who are only at the SDA church to do damage to God's church; Satan dreassed in sheeps clothing coming into churches or visiting SDA websites like this one.

I think you should go visit pastors like Stephen Bohr or Doug Bachelor and tell them their devotion to the Testimonies are off base, see what that gets you. They are two of the most devoted pastors of our church would you call them naive or gullible?

Again, if you do not believe in the spirit of Prophecy then why do you congregate with SDA's? You are going to know the extent of your sin VERY soon and I do not envy you when Jesus comes.

I think it's interesting that you take me on about my faith in the testimonies on an SDA website and no one else defends the Spirit of Prophecy. We are truly in the time of the Shaking.

Here is a warning for you Mr Peterson. Directly from the pen of my prophet. You will know the full extent of the meaning of these prophetic utterances.



But you know better don't you Mr Peterson?

You sound amazingly like this man who has persecuted me for the past year named Ronald Ministrone from his website NJK Project who says Mrs White was speaking about a conditional prophecy in the Sunday law, etc. Men like you seem to think you can pick and chose what is from God and what is a flight of fancy. I am here to tell you that if you stand against the Spirit of Prophecy, other wise known as the Testimonies, you are standing against God and you have no business involving yourself in our church.

"Ministers and doctors may depart from the faith, as the Word declares they will, and as the messages that God has given His servant declare they will."—Manuscript Releases 7:192 (1906). {LDE 179.5}

Mrs White was the first handmaiden of God in the last days...Acts 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy. Mrs White was His servant to herald the last days, to prepare the 144,000, who will prepare the world for the second coming.

How do you know, have you tested all her words against scriptures? For sure the church hasn’t done it and no one is doing it on the SDAs forums either. Everyone takes whatever she said as already proven and uses her writings to prove things.



That is true that the SDA Church and other denominations will never change their foundational pillars. If they did….then they would need to rebuilt a new church(house). No church can continue to stand when their foundational pillars are pulled out.

That is why the Lord led the Iraelites to live in a sukkah(tent) and not in houses(church) during the wilderness journey. They were only instructed to build a house (church =temple) when they entered the promise land. Even the temple was a tent that could be easily and quickly packed to follow that pillar of fire and smoke. Building houses (Churches) in the wilderness was just impractical and not appropriate because they could no longer follow the Lord where ever He leaded them. Each encampment the Lord was leading them to, had another test(lesson) prepared for them to learn so to teach them and monitor their growth from encampment to encampment until we grew into all His truth and ready us to enter the promise land.

Anyone that build in the wilderness a house foundation with few material learn from a few “understandings” of the truth has stopped following and growing in the Lord for we are unable to move the house foundations to the next encampment (lesson).

Only once we have a good understanding of all of His Ways, His Laws, His Mind, His Truth…. only then, we are ready to enter the promise land to receive our inheritance and have the proper material to build a house on a firm foundation tested and establish by Him.

So any Church or denominations that teaches that they have already a firm foundation and have built a house on it, have long stopped and are unable to follow the Lord wherever He leads, and are not walking in His Will and Ways.


Can you show me the scriptures for that?



That is not true James. Read Deut 13 very carefully. The Lord is taking credit that He sent that prophet (can be a true or a false one) for the purpose to prove(test) you or me. He does send false prophets or even a true prophet that receive a true vision from the Lord, but often the prophet is not given the interpretation of it and he(or she) will interpret it wrong. For the Lord said that He speaks to prophets … “in a vision” or “in a dream” that is given “in dark speeches”(chiydah, “a puzzle, hence, a trick”)”(Num 12:8). Anyone that interprets the vision without receiving the interpretation is given a private interpretation. More frequently the visions sent doesn't come with the interpretation, thus the prophets don't understand it and often will die without understanding it.
1C 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.1C 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Also read Ez 14:1-12 that says that if anyone comes to inquire to the Lord with a heart idol(teachings of men) in their heart that He, the Lord Himself, will answer Him and set His face against him and make “him a sign and a proverb” and cut him off. The prophet is commanded to not answer this person if the prophet detects that individual has set a heart idol. If the prophet answered despite him knowing the person has a heart idol, then the Lord says that the prophet will bear the punishment of the individual. But if unknowingly of the heart idol, the prophet answer that individual, then the Lord will put in the mouth of that prophet His answer.

So Ez 14 let us know that the Lord will answer another individual according to their heart idols. Whatever the Lord will answer, the Lord knows that individual will twist it to suit their heart idol and will further become a stumblingblock for them. The Lord said He will answer them in a way that will make “him a sign and a proverb” for all to see. I do believe the Lord will answer them with some truth, but the text doesn’t specify it. Whether it is truth or false, the end result is the same. The person will twist it all around to suit their heart idol.

The same principle (or law) is shown when the people ask for “flesh”(man's word = man's theories = man's interpretaton = heart idols) to eat instead of pure manna(word of G-d) in the wilderness. The Lord gave them what they ask for…“flesh” and He will give them lots of it until it gets them sick.

This is the ways of the Lord as written in the Law and the prophets for us to be able to recognize Him. What you are saying and promoting is the worship of “the queen of Heaven” saying the Lord wouldn't do that. Get grounded into the truth James. Read, study, and meditate “every word that proceeded from the mouth of the Lord”. Don’t put any aside, don’t cherry pick. Recognize what idols you have in your heart, and put them at the door before opening scriptures. Whatever we can at least recognize or have a potential to be one; then they won’t have as much power on us in distorting the pure words of the Lord.

This is a warning to all of us when we open scriptures and inquire the Lord for the Truth. If we have not put our heart idols at the door before inquiring the Lord, the Lord will feed us more flesh.


False prophets or true prophets given vision that were mis-interpretated afterwards by the prophet; or even if the signs of the prophet came true and the people were caught in the infatuation of the vision or sign given to the prophet who later on spoke falsehood or mis-interpretated the vision; or we or they (the prophet being true or false) having heart idols and have twisted His original pure word----- all of tese boils down to the same as being a lie that WE believed ourselves because we fail to test it as the Lord told us to.

No matter how long or how deep we were “made a sign and a proverb” and how many times we have stumbled on our heart idols… by falling we do get corrected an tiny inch at a time. It does exhort us to know the Lord cared enough to correct us in the only way that was possible to reproved us. Heart idols totally blinds us, so by falling and smashing our noses, can we get some hope to eventually see that we were blinded by that heart idol.

Falsehood does eventually correct us, and exhort us and reprove us and does strongly teach us to test all things according to what the Lord told us to do in Deut 13 and elsewhere. Those that come to obey the Lord and does test all the words of a prophet ….always come out in learning more and deeper the meaning of the word of the Lord and comes more familiar with the Lord’s Ways and Character despite if the prophet sent is true or false.

If someone do not test all things like the Bereans was praised for doing, then they are not obeying the Lord no matter if that prophet sent is a true prophet or not. We are called to test for ourselves anyone’s saying, preachings, church doctrines, beliefs, etc… against the Law, the prophets, the psalms, and other scriptures so we can come more familiar with Him. That’s the whole purpose of it all.

EGW and James has correctly said that it was our Christian DUTY to do so. Also Paul was not the least offended when the Bereans was testing all of his words. He upheld their actions with high regards because Paul knew that that is what the Lord requires of us. Anyone that doesn’t or preaches against it or stone anyone that test someone’s word …. is walking a path of disobedience to the Lord’s command.

Oh Elle, I wont argue with you.

Why do you bring your your contempt of the servant of the Lord to our congregation of believers?

Is it your duty to spread your lack of faith in our midst?

Why would you want to be a part of our church if you do not believe? Are you so desperate for attention that you must continue to darken the doorway of our congregations? Why don't you form your own church and leave us alone? You obviously think God has given you a new message that contradicts our prophet so why do you need us?

What would motivate someone to come to a church to spread confusion? You better think about this now before it's too late. But I am going to ask you not to respond to anything I post about the Testimonies please, you and everyone else here spreading your contradictions against the true testimony can just leave me be. Or can you not abide by this demand?

Hear this; everyone here trying to dissuade others from faith of the testimonies are playing with death. If you do not have any beliefe in the testimonies then you do not belong here or in a SDA church and you will suffer the worst in the second resurrection just as the beast will. Shame on you

By the way Elle, if you had really read what I posted you would see that God proved the words of Mrs White to me as His own, and how dare you contradict what God has shown me as if it is your duty to do so. Leave our church alone.

There is a very strange perverseness of someone coming to a church with the express purpose of converting the members of that church to their own. Like the betrayal of a groomsman trying to seduce the bride of Christ. If your message is so strong then go to your own congregations or assemblies or ingatherings and spread your beliefs.

As I meditate asking God what it is that He wants to be done about people like you spreading lies in our church, He tells me to warn others what your purpose is, to lay a marker on the sight of the heressy then warn all those who come near. Like a landmine field, to mark the path of Satan's lies.

I will never be persuaded that the Testimonies are not from God.

Mrs White was sent as a messenger from God, shame on anyone who says different.

I have only quoted you scriptures and showed you where you are not in agreement with scripture and EGW.


You seem to not understand what the Lord has reveal in His law and ways He taught us to walk that this is not a time to establish churches and even less establish pillar for a church....not until we enter the promise land.

Till then, we each have a responsibility to follow the Lord wherever He leads and learn His lessons He has prepared for us to learn His ways & truth and carry the cross the Lord gives us to carry so to bear the sins of our brothers. Basically you are stuck with me James Love ya!