APL,

Please tell us where in your NIV one can find Jesus' instructions to fast and pray to cast out demons.

Is this doctrine too fragile in your Bible--so fragile that it has already been broken? Is it only in the KJV and not in your NIV?

You are the one who asked the question about the fragility of our doctrines. Please point us to where this truth can be found in the NIV.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. (Matthew 17:21, KJV)

And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting. (Mark 9:29, KJV)

(Matthew 17:21, NIV)

He replied, “This kind can come out only by prayer.” (Mark 9:29, NIV)

Regarding fasting, Jesus told the disciples to fast. Does it matter why He told them to do so?

Oh no, it does not matter. God said, I believe it, that settles it. NOT.

Your whole question ignores the situation. You promote a formula, but ignore the real truth which is a firm solid faith in Jesus.

Oh no, it does not matter. God said, I believe it, that settles it. NOT.

What then? Why, Christ Himself told Moses to set up a pole and make a brazen serpent and put it upon that pole and to raise it in the sight of the Israelites, that everyone who looked upon it might live. They had no great work to do. They were to look because God said it should be. {FW 69.3}

Now, suppose that they had stopped to reason it out and said, "Why, it cannot be that by looking at that brazen serpent we will be healed! There is no life in it!" But the look of faith did heal them just as God had told them it would. Those who looked lived. Those who stopped to argue and explain it, died. {FW 69.4}

Some poor souls who have been fascinated with the eloquent words of the teachers of spiritualism, and have yielded to its influence, afterward find out its deadly character, and would renounce and flee from it, but cannot. Satan holds them by his power, and is not willing to let them go free. He knows that they are surely his while he has them under his special control, but that if they once free themselves from his power, he can never bring them again to believe in spiritualism, and to place themselves so directly under his control. The only way for such poor souls to overcome Satan, is to discern between pure Bible truth and fables. As they acknowledge the claims of truth, they place themselves where they can be helped. They should entreat those who have had a religious experience, and who have faith in the promises of God, to plead with the mighty Deliverer in their behalf. It will be a close conflict. Satan will reinforce his evil angels who have controlled these persons; but if the saints of God with deep humility fast and pray, their prayers will prevail. Jesus will commission holy angels to resist Satan, and he will be driven back and his power broken from off the afflicted ones. Mark 9:29: "And He said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting." {1T 343.2}

The popular ministry cannot successfully resist spiritualism. They have nothing wherewith to shield their flocks from its baleful influence. Much of the sad result of spiritualism will rest upon ministers of this age; for they have trampled the truth under their feet, and in its stead have preferred fables. The sermon which Satan preached to Eve upon the immortality of the soul--"Ye shall not surely die"--they have reiterated from the pulpit; and the people receive it as pure Bible truth. It is the foundation of spiritualism. The word of God nowhere teaches that the soul of man is immortal. Immortality is an attribute of God only. 1 Timothy 6:16: "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen." {1T 344.1}

If they cannot settle such things among themselves by prayer and fasting, then let them continue [in] fasting and prayer till they can. {TSB 234.1}

Jesus will commission holy angels to resist Satan, and he will be driven back and his power broken from off the afflicted ones. Mark 9:29: "And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting." {RH, May 13, 1862 par. 9}

Let us, at such times, remember that Christ was tempted in all points like as we are tempted, and that in His strength we can overcome. Let us by prayer and fasting draw near to God. {21MR 11.1}

Satan will reinforce his evil angels who have controlled the individuals; but if the saints of God with deep humility fast and pray, their prayers will prevail. Jesus will commission holy angels to resist Satan, and he will be driven back, and his power broken from off the afflicted ones. Mark 9:29. "And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting." {4bSG 103.2}

I didn't change the subject, I added to the subject.