And again, I totally agree that the Spirit of God is withdrawn at the second death. No Holy Spirit, or Holy angels trying to guide the hearts of men outside the gates.

They are cut off (second death). But they at first do not even see the futility of their attempt to go to war with God. It is not until God shows every person outside how they were lost, and how Satan was the archetect of their destruction, that the lost realize they are lost; and that is when they begin to see everything they lost, and this is what causes their torment.

When they turn on Satan, lightning from heaven (angels) ignite the storehouse of flamables in the earth and the resulting fire slowly consumes the wicked in a state of prolonged agony in proportion to the pain they caused in their lives. They pay for their own sins. Not everyone who sees the second death will be punished in agony either, they will just dissappear like they were never born, it is all proportunate to their sins. Satan burns the longest because final penalty for the confessed sins of God's people are finally put on the head of the scapegoat and led to the valley of forgetfulness. Extinction, where even their memory is forgotten by God. Perdition.

Please address my comments and questions.

Do you believe Jesus commanded Moses to kill criminals and combatants? If so, please post texts.

Answer me this - do we have free will nor not, and I will answer you.

Leviticus 20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 22:22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

Joshua 7:20 And Achan answered Joshua, and said, Indeed I have sinned against the Lord God of Israel, and thus and thus have I done:

21 When I saw among the spoils a goodly Babylonish garment, and two hundred shekels of silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty shekels weight, then I coveted them, and took them; and, behold, they are hid in the earth in the midst of my tent, and the silver under it.

22 So Joshua sent messengers, and they ran unto the tent; and, behold, it was hid in his tent, and the silver under it.

23 And they took them out of the midst of the tent, and brought them unto Joshua, and unto all the children of Israel, and laid them out before the Lord.

24 And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, and the silver, and the garment, and the wedge of gold, and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had: and they brought them unto the valley of Achor.

25 And Joshua said, Why hast thou troubled us? the Lord shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones.

Exodus 21:29 But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death.

Yes.

Not sure how can believe there is free will. How can there be free will is God is going to punish you for every bad thing you do. It is love me, or I will kill you! There is no free will in the scenario. Love can not be commanded. You believe that nothing happens unless Jesus says so. Thus rape is only be permission of God. The Lord's prayer asks for God's will to be done on earth as it is in heaven, why? Because God's will is not being done on earth.

Death and destruction is caused by sin. ALL of it. God has given us freedom to think and do. God has given us also instruction on what we can not do, not because if we do God will punish us, but because if we do, it will destroy us. We can not violate God's law, and God's law is the instructions he put into each and every thing that God has made. Satan perverted his freedom. He was created perfect, until iniquity was found in him, (Ezekiel 28:12-15). I read the Bible literally unless it is an obvious figure, this is following #11 of Miller's rules of interpretation. Iniquity is a real and physical entity, it is the sin with in. Satan and his angels did not keep their first estate, and left their own habitation, Jude 6. They corrupted themselves as Ezekiel 28:18 say, You have defiled your sanctuaries by the multitude of your iniquities.

By the freedom God has given all, we can choose to obey the design that God has created or violate it. Violating God's law will result in death, Roman 6:23. This is an intrinsic consequence of sin. This is the second death. The first death is not the wages of sin, for it is appointed to all to die, then the judgement, Hebrews 9:27. We have only seen the second death once, and that is the death of Christ. He bore our sin in His body, literally, 1 Peter 2:24. Christ condemned sin in the flesh, Romans 8:3. The second death is no arbitrary imposition of punishment. It is the natural final playing out of sin.

As for all the death in we see in the Bible, this was never God's plan. It was God meeting man where they where. If Israel had followed God's instructions, they would have never needed to fight, ever! But Israel did not follow God. They did not know or understand God. Isaiah 1:3-6 The ox knows his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel does not know, my people does not consider. 4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel to anger, they are gone away backward. 5 Why should you be stricken any more? you will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. 6 From the sole of the foot even to the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrefying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.

1. You believe every act of punishment fits the withdraw and permit principle of punishment. True or false?

2. Evil angels are not free to wreak havoc as they please. They must have Jesus' permission to tempt or to destroy. Their hands are tied until Jesus unties them. True or false?

3. Do you believe the death and destruction wrought by evil angels when Jesus permits represents the natural cause and effect consequence of sinning?

4. You have refused to post inspired passages you believe depict Jesus commanding His chosen people to wage war, to kill His enemies with the edge of the sword. Please explain why you have refused to post them.

5. You have not explained why you believe nature is self-acting, why you believe all Jesus need do is withdraw His restraining hand and the forces of nature will act in and of itself to cause the death and destruction Jesus is willing to permit. The SOP plainly says nature is not self-acting.

6. Do you believe the death and destruction wrought by nature when Jesus permits represents the natural cause and effect consequence of sinning?

Yes I do. Has anyone denied this? And why do you want me to post texts that you are fond of quoting? That seems very disingenuous of you. And what does any of this have to do with you putting God in the same light as Hitler? Obey me or else!

So God is only righteous if we see Him from your perspective eh?

If what you say is true, then why would God need to judge the world? If what ever sin causes it's own destruction then God could just sit back and let it happen, He wouldn't have to do anything in the situation. Yet a vast portion of the Sanctuary service points to a great judgment that every unfallen and redeemed creature gets to be a witness to. So there is a trial and no execution of judgment? That makes no sense.

Why would God need to have a trial at all if every unconfessed sin will spontaniously burn who ever has not confessed?