1. So, God could have spared us our current pain, but chose another course. Pain is not the worst thing there is, and can even be very helpful.

2. What happened to Satan's freewill? Why hasn't he been killed by snakes, swallowed by the earth, or incinerated by fire? These are examples of what you say happened when God left people alone. Why is Satan still kicking, even though he rejected God long ago?

If God had allowed the natural consequences of sin to proceed, Satan would have perished. The on looking universe, never having seen this, would not have understood this. God had to intervene and let satan's scenario play out. It is called, the Great Controversy.

In all these years since his rebellion, Satan has been kept alive by God in order to let the Great Controversy play out. OK.

So, it is not always true that, "The people had rejected God. Freewill means He must leave." There are times when God overrides one's choice, if a greater good can be accomplished or a greater evil avoided.

Since his rebellion, has Satan's life been one of peace and joy, or pain and suffering?

You need to look at yourself. You need to review the argument of satan accusing God of being tyrannical. Because what you are doing is saying that God does the same thing as a tyrant would do, but then you have twisted it to say that acting in such a way is NOT tyranny and you have twisted the words of inspiration to make it say the opposite. You have called good evil and evil good. Satan accused God of what you are accusing Him of. However, even satan could see it as tyranny, but you see tyranny as good.

You need prayer, brother.

That is a perfect point Dedication.

We are in the middle of a war, and there are only two sides.

Shame on anyone who twists the truth to illude that God is in collusion with Satan. If Satan punishes the wicked then who punishes Satan?

God is in control of our only defense against Satan. Like He said to Job "can you snag leviathon with a hook?" we have no weapons against Satan and the angels of God are our only defense.

In the second resurrection God takes away Satans defenses and exposes him, casting him to the ground, making him walk like a mortal. "I shall bring you to ashes in the sight of men". God does this, not nature or the unraveling of the fabric of the universe, GOD does it.

We all need prayer brother, and if you are willing to offer one I am willing to accept it, but I don't see you offering one, I only see you use the fact to cast contempt. God doesn't like us using His name like that, I hope you know.

Let me tell you about the power of prayer. Every time I or my wife are in need of anything, we pray and it happens through the grace of God.

I hear the still small voice ask me what I would like, this is how close God has brought me to Him. On several occasions God has asked me if I need or want anything. I respond by taking the opportunity for praying for my family and friends and sometimes enemies, and they all come true, then He asks "But what do YOU want?"

Of course I ask for all righteousness and truth and the wisdom of Christ in my life, and then He tells me to ask for the righteous comforts of life, so I asked to get out of debt and to meet the woman HE would want for me. The very next morning I woke up to the phone ringing and it was my mothers husband asking how much the Smoothie Bar ministry I founded put me in debt and he sent me a check the next day and I met my wife that day, and everything else I asked for in the name of Jesus came true. Since that time there have been several other answers to prayer that were so miraculous that even my family and friends are constrained to acknowledge God answered my prayers. The most recent answer came last week in the saving of my fathers life while he was dying.

I wont share all the amazing prayers for others that have been answered, but there are times when in prayer that God answers directly without delay, giving answers to deep spiritual issues, and He is NEVER wrong.

I asked for a home for my new wife and one was given to me a week later, paid in full. I asked for a new car so we could have some security in our jobs and getting arround, and not one but two brand new cars are sitting in my garage right now, one of them completely paid for as a gift.

I boast in the Lord. I do need prayer, but I guarantee you I have no fear of not being heard.

The Ten Commandments are the character of God in writing. They have been around since before the angels.

Breaking the commandments demands death of the sinner.

Satan took this fact and twisted it to say God is a tyrant because He will destroy anyone who does not comply to His will in perfect righteousness. This is what you and APL are doing in your argument Kland. But it will soon be seen how wrong you are.

"Satan is constantly at work to misrepresent the character and government of God and to hold the inhabitants of the world under his deception. God sees the end from the beginning. His plans were far-reaching and comprehensive, not merely to put down the rebellion, but to demonstrate to all the universe its nature, fully vindicating His wisdom and righteousness in His dealings with evil. {EP 41.3}
The inhabitants of other worlds were watching with the deepest interest the condition of the world before the flood. They saw the results of the administration which Lucifer had endeavored to establish in heaven in casting aside the law of God. The thoughts of men’s hearts were only evil continually (Genesis 6:5), at war with the divine principles of purity, peace, and love. It was an example of awful depravity. {EP 41.4}
By the facts unfolded in the great controversy God carries with Him the sympathy of the whole universe as step by step His great plan advances to its fulfillment in the final eradication of rebellion. It will be seen that all who have forsaken the divine precepts have placed themselves on the side of Satan, in warfare against Christ. When the prince of this world shall be judged, and all who have united with him shall share his fate, the whole universe will declare, “Just and true are Thy ways, Thou King of saints.” Revelation 15:3. {EP 41.5}

"I saw that the angels of God are never to control the will. God sets before man life and death. He can have his choice. Many desire life, but still continue to walk in the broad road. They choose to rebel against God’s government, notwithstanding His great mercy and compassion in giving His Son to die for them. Those who do not choose to accept of the salvation so dearly purchased, must be punished. But I saw that God would not shut them up in hell to endure endless misery, neither will He take them to heaven; for to bring them into the company of the pure and holy would make them exceedingly miserable. But He will destroy them utterly and cause them to be as if they had not been; then His justice will be satisfied. He formed man out of the dust of the earth, and the disobedient and unholy will be consumed by fire and return to dust again. I saw that the benevolence and compassion of God in this matter should lead all to admire His character and to adore His holy name. After the wicked are destroyed from off the earth, all the heavenly host will say, “Amen!” {EW 221.1}

All the heavenly host will say amen when God destroys the wicked but Kland and APL will not.

JAMES - - God does not stand toward the sinner as an executioner of the sentence against transgression; but He leaves the rejectors of His mercy to themselves, to reap that which they have sown. Every ray of light rejected, every warning despised or unheeded, every passion indulged, every transgression of the law of God, is a seed sown which yields its unfailing harvest. The Spirit of God, persistently resisted, is at last withdrawn from the sinner, and then there is left no power to control the evil passions of the soul, and no protection from the malice and enmity of Satan. The destruction of Jerusalem is a fearful and solemn warning to all who are trifling with the offers of divine grace and resisting the pleadings of divine mercy. Never was there given a more decisive testimony to God's hatred of sin and to the certain punishment that will fall upon the guilty. {GC 36.1}

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