Praise God brother.

Good morning brother Mark. I reviewed some of your responses, and would like clarification.

"Regarding men seeking death, those who seek it are those who do not have the seal." What evidence do you base this on?

"Some of what you wrote is worth further study but I think overall this view strains the intended meaning."

Perhaps go through it further and it may become clearer. I know it took me quite a while to understand this view, based on the fact that our historical views were not even close to it.But as we know it all has to fit and in truth or it won't be God's truth. I'll post more about the Trumpets soon.

What Mark Shipowick is really saying is this, "I have issues though as I mentioned, with denying the historic, day for year principle here. The day for year method was the key that unlocked the great time periods of prophecy. You are not rejecting it wholesale. You still use it for the 1260 days right but you reject it in the fifth trumpet. We'll have to disagree here." In other words, you are contradicting Ellen White; and since he views her word as sacred, you are contradicting God.

SDA have locked themselves in the prison of the lesser light. It is to his credit however, that he can at least consider your perspective.

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The heptad of trumpets are, as Churchill said of Russia, "a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma." It is much easier to discern and discuss the thread running through them then to blow your mind with the symbolism of each.

One of the first things to notice is that they come just as silence descends on heaven. In that awful, pregnant quiet, "I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and to them were given seven trumpets. Then another angel, having a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God from the angel’s hand. Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it to the earth. And there were noises, thunderings, lightnings, and an earthquake. So the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound." (Rev. 8:2-6)

In other words, ALL OF THE SEVENTH SEAL includes the seven trumpets. The seventh seal comes to an end in the seventh trumpet. And it all happens in the presence of God, the Lamb and the angels in the heavens, as revealed in the previous seal. In short, the trumpets SEEM to be the last plagues in different symbols.

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Mr. Peterson,

You must have a deep seeded hatred towards us like the demon possessed woman following Paul and Silas taunting us like this. If you do not believe in the Adventist faith then what would possess you to come here to make any statements what so ever? That goes for all of you Ellen White SDA haters here.

You do know that the first amendment doesn't condone harrassment don't you? If you are here to harrass us, wouldn't that make you a criminal? Why don't you be a good Christian and let us have our faith here please?

Weren't those the very words Satan asked the Son of God through the mouth of the Scribes and Pharisees, saying, "Who invited you here? Why don't you leave us alone? We don't want you among us. Are we not right in saying you are a Samaritan and have a demon?"

But don't you know that the gospel of the Kingodm of God is to be preached in the house of the Devil? How is it you present yourself as a teacher of the Law and don't know these things? The SDA denomination is not a cult, is it?

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Excuse me, Mr. Peterson,

My problem with what you said is that you spoke on behalf of some one else. In this case, Mark Shipowick.

I would ask you to let Mark speak for himself, and you speak for yourself only.

God Bless.

Would appreciate it if you'd let brother Mark answer, thanks.

Is Alchemy = jamesofthunder? Because I was responding to jamesofthunder. Perhaps I should ask you to let him speak for himself, and YOU speak for yourself.

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I'm not preventing him from answering. I should think that in his own time he will. I merely quoted him verbatim for you to see that he considers your deviation from the "year-for-a-day" principle to be ill-advised.

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