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Re: What comes first-- The Sunday law or the Church judgment? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #161961
02/17/14 04:08 PM
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What amazed me about that situation, I shared with pastor David Kobliska the vision God gave me about Sept 11 2001, how it was the day God held the four winds as prophecied in Rev 7 and the Testimonies. After he thought he had chased me away I came back on the 10th year aniversary since 9/11 the week he was leaving the church, and guess what his sermon was about?

That man used 90% of all the quotes I shared in the writting God compelled me to write after 9/11 in his sermon. When he saw me in the last pew his face got very red because he knew I had busted him.

He denied the vision God gave me when talking to him privately about the subject, yet he stoled the whole of the work that I had done on the subject and presented it as his own before the congregation.

There is something very shameful about a pastor being so divisive and hypocritical.

Every single pastor I have met in this region has fallen from the historical church and are trying to make the church into their own image contrary to the ideal apostolic church we are supposed to be a remnant of.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: What comes first-- The Sunday law or the Church judgment? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #161964
02/17/14 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
God has shown me that we are in it now. Those who are being swept up in the furver of the false revival cannot see where we are right now.



The two sides (two parties) are definitely forming and strengthening now, and we are seeing some very real and increasing foretastes of what is coming. And yes, it is becoming more and more obvious where the majority is, but the actual splitting apart of the church itself has not yet happened. When it does it will be a most terrible ordeal.

Contrary to what many think -- Adventist churches will not be standing empty, Adventist hospitals and universities will not be closed down. Most (not all as the true Seventh-day Adventist Church will continue and be a united force for truth) but the huge majority will join the popular movement and be the "state recognized" and ecumenically approved Adventist church.

The "false revival" comes to build the memberships confidence that the leadership will take the institutional church through the troubleous times so when the split comes the members will follow the majority.

Wheat and tares are in the church, we see all kinds of compromises, but we still recognize it as God's church, but when the split (the big shaking) comes how do we know we can't follow the majority and stay "with the main church"?

Prophecy and scripture has given us a SIGN --

Quote:
Duet.31:13 Verily you shall keep my Sabbath: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that they may know that I am the LORD that sanctifies you.
Matt. 24:15 When you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoever reads, let him understand: )
24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:


When Sunday is uplifted in the Adventist church, then it is time to flee that church. The true Seventh-day Adventist Church will be small, it won't be the majority.

That's why the issue in Samoa is so troubling for me. The church has split on those Islands (not officially as all are still "Seventh-day Adventists" though in actuality it has split) the majority keeping Sunday, the minority keeping Saturday, and the question there is "Who are the true Seventh-day Adventists"?
That question will face us all in the near future.







Re: What comes first-- The Sunday law or the Church judgment? [Re: dedication] #161986
02/18/14 04:49 AM
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dedication wrote;

"That's why the issue in Samoa is so troubling for me. The church has split on those Islands (not officially as all are still "Seventh-day Adventists" though in actuality it has split) the majority keeping Sunday, the minority keeping Saturday, and the question there is "Who are the true Seventh-day Adventists"?
That question will face us all in the near future."

I agree with this statement.

The Seventh-day Adventist Church has had this problem in the South Pacific Division for over a century in Tonga, and now the problem is spreading to Samoa. The Sabbath is not being honored in the SDA Church in the SPD.

This is a much more important issue in these last days than WOPE, yet WOPE is constantly kept before us while these Sabbath issues are hidden for decades. 2015 is going to be a very critical GC Session for me.

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