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Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16209
12/05/05 01:30 PM
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Marriage is the union of two individuals; two become one. God took Adam and split him into two: one became two. That was not a marriage. Let us remain true to the record.
Darius,

This is beside the point. They lived as husband and wife. Physical beings have sex, but angels don’t. This is Jesus' point about the resurrection.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16210
12/05/05 01:35 PM
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Rosangela, facts may be beside the point to you; they are important to me. If we reserve the right to be loose with the facts in order to bolster our dogma we should just keep quiet about other people's efforts in the same direction.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16211
12/05/05 02:02 PM
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Darius,

Let's try again. Jesus said we won't have a sexual life after the resurrection. But when Adam and Eve were created they had a sexual life.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16212
12/05/05 02:15 PM
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Rosa, that argument only fits in if you believe that a non-sexual life is an improvement over a sexual life.

That was the original argument I made.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16213
12/06/05 11:42 AM
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Darius,

The resurrection is a more elevated state than the present life, therefore a non-sexual life in this context must necessarily be an improvement on a sexual life. God made man a little lower than the angels (Ps. 8:4-6), however Jesus said that in the resurrection we would be equal to angels (Luke 20:35). And angels are spirits.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16214
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Then you must believe that sin was a blessing. You can be resurrected unless you die, and death came because of sin. Wonderful theology. Sorry, I don't buy it. I doubt you do, either.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16215
12/07/05 04:04 AM
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MSDAOL Administrators:

I would like to make a formal request that Darius be denied access to this forum. His views are clearly unbiblical, and violate the rules of this forum.

Thank you.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16216
12/06/05 06:27 PM
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Thankfully, you cannot say my views are contrary to the truth. I would remind you that most of what you do today is unbiblical; like belonging to an internet forum. The world must be happy to have people as tolerant as you are.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16217
12/07/05 01:26 PM
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Darius,

Those who are alive when Christ comes won’t need to die before they are changed.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16218
12/07/05 01:53 PM
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Rosangela, resurrection and change are two separate issues. I think we are having difficulty because you are combining issues that are not necessarily combined.

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