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Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16239
12/10/05 07:04 PM
12/10/05 07:04 PM
Darius  Offline
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MM, the ability to quote does not show that you live by the concepts in those texts.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16240
12/10/05 07:48 PM
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Darius why are trying to judge Mountain Man? I think most of us have plenty of beams in our own eyes not to worry about the speck in our brothers? At least I know I do, I really cannot speak for you personally.

BTW you never answered my last post, not that you have to or anything. I was just questioning one of your posts.

Redfog

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16241
12/10/05 08:03 PM
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Redfog, I guess you missed MM's attacks on me. He has advocated that I be banned from this forum, to say the least.

As to your post, I will not make any claims for the Bible that it does not make for itself, especially claims that contradict what it teaches within its pages.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16242
12/12/05 04:02 AM
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Darius, requesting that you be banned from posting on this thread is not attacking you. Your views violate forum rules.

Since you do not know me personally, you have no way of knowing if I live by every word contained in the Bible.

You believe the Bible must be judged by your personal observations of the natural world around you. You also believe Paul and David penned things in the Bible that contradict your personal observations.

Your assessment of the Bible does not agree with the quotes I posted above.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16243
12/12/05 04:47 AM
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I think there is a great danger in intellectualizing away some of the most basic of Biblical truths. Personal observations are not a basis for truth, in fact our own observations are many times very misleading, especially of the natural world.

MM I agree with you that you were not attacking Mr. Lecointe. You simply took the facts of what was written, felt that what was written violated the forum rules and made a request.

It does appear that there is some serious dancing around the questions on the part of a particular individual. A straight answer is not very often given, indeed there are many post that seem intentionally vague and evasive, to the point of being nonsensical. [Confused]

Redfog

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16244
12/11/05 08:37 PM
12/11/05 08:37 PM
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MM, I don't have to know you to know that you could not possibly live by some of the things you posted.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16245
12/11/05 08:39 PM
12/11/05 08:39 PM
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Redfog, please take one question and the response I gave then demonstrate the truth of your most recent accusation.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16246
12/11/05 09:36 PM
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"As to your post, I will not make any claims for the Bible that it does not make for itself, especially claims that contradict what it teaches within its pages."

Ya Darius I'd say this answer is rather vague, especially when it should have been clear that I was asking you to comment on the literal 7 day creation week.

You state: "God's word is eternal; it has no beginning and no end. That is what I believe in. I hope no one here has a problem with that."

Is this statement vague? Again yes I'd say it is. What do you actually mean here? If I were judging I'd say , "That is what I believe in. I hope no one here has a problem with that." is also a little arrogant. But I'm sure I'm the only one who sees it that way.

In general I get the impression that you believe that God gave you the intelligence to interpret scripture based on your observation of the world around you. Correct me if I'm wrong on that impression.

Redfog

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16247
12/11/05 09:50 PM
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Redfog, how do you think that the authorities you depend on came to their own interpretations of the Bible. We all depend on human intelligence. I happen to trust the one the God gave me. I hope you are not depending on the one He gave to somebody else.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16248
12/11/05 10:04 PM
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I depend on no one to know that the Bible says the earth was created in 6 days.

Redfog

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