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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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02/27/14 01:16 PM
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. . . Jesus commanded murdering men, women, and children . . . I disagree. Murder is against the law. Jesus commanded combat. Tell us, how do you "combat" a child?
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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02/27/14 05:06 PM
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. . . Jesus commanded murdering men, women, and children . . . I disagree. Murder is against the law. Jesus commanded combat. Tell us, how do you "combat" a child? Would it have been a sin to obey that command?
By God's grace,
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1 John 5:11-13
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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02/27/14 05:33 PM
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Jesus commanded the Jews to kill every man, women, and child. We "utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain."
You refuse to confess the truth. You are denying God's Word.
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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02/28/14 02:16 PM
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. . . Jesus commanded murdering men, women, and children . . . I disagree. Murder is against the law. Jesus commanded combat. It was a sin to disobey His command. King Saul found that out the hard way. Jesus commanded the Jews to kill every man, women, and child. We "utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain."
You refuse to confess the truth. You are denying God's Word. What truth am I refusing to confess? You say you disagree, but then you seem to emphasize "Jesus commanded" without any regard to what He commanded. I also noticed that you had said: the fact Jesus commanded capital punishment and combat. " and" The original question was what is the distinction between murder and killing. But it seems you have separated things out into: - Killing
- Murder
- Capital punishment
- Combat
No doubt, you will add more as you go. But back to you emphasizing "Jesus commanded", it does appear to me that you are throwing any and all distinctions into the wind and disregarding whether He commanded Killing, Murder, Capital punishment, or Combat solely because it was "commanded". Just like Hitler "commands" things, huh?
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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. . . Jesus commanded murdering men, women, and children . . . Would it have been a sin to obey that command?
By God's grace,
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1 John 5:11-13
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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Kland, please answer Asygo's question.
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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. . . Jesus commanded murdering men, women, and children . . . Would it have been a sin to obey that command? In my childhood I had to go somewhere else when a lamb was slaughtered at the farm. I have never since seen it as a Christian duty to kill. I was delighted when President Eisenhower exempted me from active duty, even though I had already been classified as a CO. We were taught that Seventh-day Adventists should not kill, and even Abraham Lincoln accepted that.
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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Johann, do you agree with Kland that "Jesus commanded murdering men, women, and children"? If so, please answer the question - Would it have been a sin to obey that command?
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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Kland, please answer Asygo's question.
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 3)
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The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. (Exodus 15:3) Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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