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Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16259
12/12/05 02:06 PM
12/12/05 02:06 PM
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Ok I realize there are those that say natural cloning is possible. However this is not the type of thing we're talking about here. (And I'm assuming with your intellect you know that [Smile] ) Science would never agree with this: "...for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost." It is impossible for us to understand this. Logic and intellect could never figure this out, it has to be taken on faith.

Redfog

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16260
12/12/05 02:18 PM
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Darius, once again, I implore you to stop posting on this thread. Your views violate forum rules. Please, please, please. Stop posting on this thread.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16261
12/12/05 02:21 PM
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Mountain Man  Offline OP
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Redfog, please join me in disregarding Darius' posts. If we refuse to respond to his posts he will, I pray, eventually stop posting unbiblical views. Thank you.

Have you given any thought to the title of this thread? I would be happy to explore it with you.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16262
12/12/05 02:52 PM
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Redfog, you did not respond to my request. Forget what you think science will and will not do. Provide support for the claim you made.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16263
12/12/05 02:53 PM
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MM, what are you afraid of? It is shameful that you must resort to the tactics you have because you have no substantive rebuttal to my views.

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16264
12/13/05 03:14 AM
12/13/05 03:14 AM
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Mountain Man it's true we are well off topic but I think this conversation
is important so that we know Darius's true colors. It is becoming much
clearer what his beliefs are, or maybe I should say unbelief's. He is slowly
and with much prodding reveling to us that he believes more in his own
intellect than in the Bible. We don't have to attack him, he is doing it
quite fine all by himself.

Redfog

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16265
12/13/05 03:17 AM
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Obviously I can not prove that science would not agree that a virgin birth conceived of the Holy Spirit is possible because science would not address it. However anyone who knows anything about science would tell you that it is impossible. This is not rocket science, it is Faith. Faith based on a personal relationship with the Creator, the same Creator who Created the earth in 6 24 hour days, was born of a Virgin conceived of the Holy Spirit and who died for you and me on Calvary. And rose again, another thing that intellect, logic and science would say is imposible.

Redfog

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16266
12/13/05 03:53 AM
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Redfog, my posts do speak for themselves. But, you need to be careful how close you come to violating the commandment against bearing false witness when you twist my words to make me say what I have not said in the same way as you have made unsupported statements about what science does and does not say.

It's your choice to place you confidence in other men's intellect rather than in that which the God gave to you. Didn't the Reformation teach us anything?

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16267
12/12/05 04:24 PM
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Darius we all, including you, place "confidence in other men's intellect". However when it comes to the Bible I place my faith in the Bible, not my own intellect, or others. Why? Because if I did then I would not believe the Bible. It's as simple as that. The only way the Bible can be believed is through Faith. Yes I study what others write, (including you on this forum) but they must show their views with scripture.

While you say I'm close to bearing false witness I only write based on what you have written. Nothing more.

Darius you are a hard person to pin down, very hard, (like nailing jelly to a wall? [Smile] ) by choice I'm assuming, however from what you have written I think it's safe to agree with Mountain Man that you are violating the rules of this forum. That be as it may I've enjoyed it.

So does science support the virgin birth as is told in the Bible?

The REDheaded Fat Old Guy

Re: What happens to our sinful flesh nature when we are born again? #16268
12/12/05 05:00 PM
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Darius I must correct my last post as I have no proof you are violating the rules of this forum. My appologies.

Redfog

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