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Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #164915
05/11/14 03:01 PM
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JSOT is right on this one. Carbon dioxide causes acidification of water, just by air contact. This is why some people claim that distilled water is not good for you, because, by virtue of having been distilled, it is even more apt to absorb carbon dioxide and become acidic. However, acidic water is not necessarily unhealthful--at least not to us. If it were, soda pop would be put out of business quickly, because the carbonation in them is much stronger than what would occur naturally in water given our present atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide.

But what does the acidification of the water do to the rest of our environment? I don't think we even know much about this yet. It certainly does change things.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #165016
05/15/14 05:49 AM
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More global warming in the news.

http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/study-dangerous-storms-peaking-further-north-south-past-0514

Here's a piece of that article.

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Powerful, destructive tropical cyclones are now reaching their peak intensity farther from the equator and closer to the poles, according to a new study co-authored by an MIT scientist.

The results of the study, published today in the journal Nature, show that over the last 30 years, tropical cyclones — also known as hurricanes or typhoons — are moving poleward at a rate of about 33 miles per decade in the Northern Hemisphere and 38 miles per decade in the Southern Hemisphere.

“The absolute value of the latitudes at which these storms reach their maximum intensity seems to be increasing over time, in most places,” says Kerry Emanuel, an MIT professor and co-author of the new paper. “The trend is statistically significant at a pretty high level.”

And while the scientists who conducted the study are still investigating the atmospheric mechanisms behind this change, the trend seems consistent with a warming climate.

“It may mean the thermodynamically favorable conditions for these storms are migrating poleward,” adds Emanuel, the Cecil and Ida Green Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences at MIT.

The implications are serious, since the movement of peak intensity means regions further north and south of the equator, which have not previously had to face many landfalls by violent cyclones, may now have greater exposure to these extreme weather events. That, in turn, could lead to “potentially profound consequences to life and property,” the paper states. “Any related changes to positions where storms make landfall will have obvious effects on coastal residents and infrastructure.”


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #165017
05/15/14 08:50 AM
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Satan uses men to destroy the earth for his purposes. He knows his time is short and he wants confuse and destroy as many as possible because for every soul that finds redemption in Christ he knows he must suffer the final penalty of their sin. Every soul he can destroy before the end he will not have to pay for because they pay for their own sins with their own blood at the second resurrection. He as the scapegoat Azazel will have all the forgiven sins of the redeemed placed on his head and suffer in the flames of hell for those sins. He has spent 6,000 years learning to manipulate the forces of nature to destroy as many as he can in the last days to shorten his fiery sentence.

“An enemy has done this.” Matthew 13:28

"Satan delights in war, for it excites the worst passions of the soul and then sweeps into eternity its victims steeped in vice and blood. It is his object to incite the nations to war against one another, for he can thus divert the minds of the people from the work of preparation to stand in the day of God.
Satan works through the elements also to garner his harvest of unprepared souls. He has studied the secrets of the laboratories of nature, and he uses all his power to control the elements as far as God allows. When he was suffered to afflict Job, how quickly flocks and herds, servants, houses, children, were swept away, one trouble succeeding another as in a moment. It is God that shields His creatures and hedges them in from the power of the destroyer. But the Christian world have shown contempt for the law of Jehovah; and the Lord will do just what He has declared that He would-He will withdraw His blessings from the earth and remove His protecting care from those who are rebelling against His law and teaching and forcing others to do the same. Satan has control of all whom God does not especially guard. He will favor and prosper some in order to further his own designs, and he will bring trouble upon others and lead men to believe that it is God who is afflicting them.

While appearing to the children of men as a great physician who can heal all their maladies, he will bring disease and disaster, until populous cities are reduced to ruin and desolation. Even now he is at work. In accidents and calamities by sea and by land, in great conflagrations, in fierce tornadoes and terrific hailstorms, in tempests, floods, cyclones, tidal waves, and earthquakes, in every place and in a thousand forms, Satan is exercising his power. He sweeps away the ripening harvest, and famine and distress follow. He imparts to the air a deadly taint, and thousands perish by the pestilence. These visitations are to become more and more frequent and disastrous. Destruction will be upon both man and beast. “The earth mourneth and fadeth away,” “the haughty people . . . do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.” Isaiah 24:4, 5.—The Great Controversy, pp. 589, 590.


I find it very interesting how so many conservative "Christians" (so called) are thinking that men have nothing to do with the things that are happening on this planet.

I would venture to say that anyone who claims there is no such thing as climate change or global warming are not truly Christians in the righteous sense.

The majority of Christians think that God will protect them from the things coming on the planet when it is actually they who are the cause of the problems by not listening to God, and He is withdrawing His Spirit and allowing Satan to give them the fruit of their reward.

What can we do about it? Take care of your souls and come before God with trembling and repentance so you are not held responsible by your lack of faith in the prophecies of God and His testimony.

I was shocked to see the "global warming farce" as a heading on a seventh day Adventist website, but then I found out who was responsible and it made sense then.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: jamesonofthunder] #165024
05/15/14 03:53 PM
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CO2, and because it is heavier than air
Could we have some facts, or do facts matter to your opinion? wink

Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
Kland It's sad that you're so willing to argue about something that you obviously know nothing about.
James, it's sad that you are so unwilling to look at the obvious. No where in your response (nor Green's) do you address the ongoing nuclear disaster. An indication of your ignorance of the facts.

You could have showed how 2 degrees increase causes sores, death, tumors, skin problems of sailors going through the area. You could have dismissed the nuclear cause and showed how nuclear radiation does not cause sores, death, tumors, skin problems of sailors going through the area. But instead, your response is glaringly lacking of any response about that -- an indication of your lack of knowledge. You are out of touch with what is happening in this world. Obviously, you did not read the links...

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I find it very interesting how so many conservative "Christians" (so called) are thinking that men have nothing to do with the things that are happening on this planet.
Why did you say that? Did you even read what I wrote?

Here's some more links. Will you consider them?
Tons of ‘highly radioactive’ liquid pouring out of Reactor 2 each day

Experts find “alterations in 30 genes, s...ling wildlife”

Professor: Concerns Fukushima is impacting Alaska; “Unusual animals showing up dead”

Fukushima police travel 1,000 miles to interrogate her, examine computer — Officer: We only go outside prefecture for “potentially dangerous criminal” — “May be held without bail… without right to see lawyer”

HBO: ‘Genetic passports’ for major population exposed to nuclear radiation? “It has deformed their genes, sorry it’s a bit of a bummer” — Twins attached by organs growing outside body, ’1-eyed cyclops’, babies with giant heads

Fukushima U. Prof.: Impossible to make it so people can live here — Top Govt Spokesman: Nosebleeds & nuclear disaster NOT related
("Govt Spokesman". What was Green saying about soda not being allowed if it was harmful....)

Over 50 dead seals, sea lions, whales, walrus recently stranded in Alaska — Dozens of seals suffering from baldness, skin sores — Experts: “Marine transported Fukushima radionuclides… may represent a new stressor to ecosystem”

Expert: “There’s just very few of the birds left” in the high contamination from Fukushima plant, “things are not looking good” — Spider webs looked ‘strange’ (PHOTO) — Animals response to radiation over twice as bad as in Chernobyl — “Implies effects are stronger in Fukushima”

Will you read the links? Or is there any need because you have already made up your mind? Someone who pretends to be a "prophet" sure seems to have a high and mighty opinion of their own knowledge. (or lack thereof)...

If you aren't going to respond intelligently to the links, then guess there's not much of a discussion with you. I have shown how the global warming propaganda doesn't fit the facts. I have shown where real problems were being covered up with the propaganda. If you ignore it, and don't even attempt to refute it, what does that say about your opinions?

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #165028
05/15/14 06:53 PM
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Fill a balloon full of CO2 and see what it does.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #165029
05/15/14 07:01 PM
05/15/14 07:01 PM
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I have been protesting what happened at Fukushima for years now. I have family that lives in Alaska which is the main path for the prevailing winds, and that is a whole other subject.

Here is a chart for how levels of CO2 have been rising.



Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #165040
05/16/14 04:40 AM
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Kland, since we do find agreement on the issue of Fukushima I have a lot of information on the subject, and if you want to start another thread I will gladly share it.

I do not claim to be a prophet, but I have been given the prophetic gift at my Lord's pleasure. It is at His command, not mine. I pray for light and He gives me what He wants me to know. Usually it is a clue that leads me to find the right information to answer the prayer. Sometimes it's a full on prophetic vision or dream or inspiration.

I thought since you seemed to be someone who was against the conservationist movement based solely off how you presented this thread that you had information about me and my involvement in the Fukushima issue.

You see I have been a strong activist for the US government to get involved in the cleanup efforts in Japan and have been stalked by haters online for years because of it. People literally call my home and threaten me because of my activism.

When you lightly mentioned Fukushima earlier I thought you were one of them who have stalked me online. I apologize for thinking that. But you have to admit that it is kind of strange for someone who makes fun of the Climate change issue to be so assertive on the nuclear disaster.

Please forgive me, and start a new thread and I will gladly supply all the information you want to encourage your mission.

The cover-up going on in Fukushima is one of the most horrendous travesties on our planet right now. We ARE in agreement.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #165051
05/16/14 01:23 PM
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But you have to admit that it is kind of strange for someone who makes fun of the Climate change issue to be so assertive on the nuclear disaster.
No. No I don't have to admit that. You said "Climate change". It used to be "Global warming". That in itself shows the problem. The change to Climate change implies you realize it's not warming but don't know whether it's cooling, warming, or staying the same, but it must, it certainly must, at least you hope it must be changing somehow....

It's a farce, it's a hoax, it's a distraction from the real issues. Such as the Fukushima meltdown, the New Mexico "accident", the deteriorating storage containers throughout the world. A distraction and a coverup of the plots to keep the people sick, keep them involved in feel-good things, so they miss out on the political maneuverings, the setting in place for the end-world showdown.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: jamesonofthunder] #165052
05/16/14 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
Fill a balloon full of CO2 and see what it does.
You said, "because it is heavier than air and stays close to the ground it gets absorbed by the oceans or lakes". Can you show facts which support that idea? What is "miscibility"?

Quote:
Here is a chart for how levels of CO2 have been rising.
Is that a lot? Has it reached the proper level? Has it exceeded the proper level? What IS the proper level?

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #165053
05/16/14 01:49 PM
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Spin doctors: Global warming is endangering many species of wildlife and fisheries.

The truth: Experts agree that many species of wildlife and fisheries are endangered globally due to the large release of radioactivity into the ocean

Spin doctors: Less than a 2 degree temperature increase is causing 300 seals to suffer hair loss. And everyone knows that the ocean temperature doesn't vary in temperature.

The truth: Also investigated was the possibility of contamination from the Fukushima nuclear plant

Spin doctors: Global warming is causing mutations in butterflies.

The truth: New study reveals deaths and mutations ”increased sharply’ from exposure to Fukushima contamination, “especially at low doses” — ‘Small’ levels of cesium may be ‘significantly toxic’ — Smithsonian: “In other words, things don’t look good for the animals living around Fukushima”


Expect to see an increased level of promotion of problems "attributed" to global warming as the observable signs of radiation poisoning start coming to light more and more.

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