It's nice to be in agreement with you Mr Peterson. And Brother Daryl.

My prayer this morning is most earnest and importunate, that in the Christian warfare we shall not fail nor be discouraged. "There is light above," a Voice says to me, and in response I withdraw my eyes from the earthly and the discouraging and look to the heavenly, praying earnestly that God's people may more distinctly and forcibly realize the dignity that our heavenly Father has conferred upon us in calling us to represent before the world, in sinful flesh, His goodness and mercy. Upon us, as well as upon the unthankful and the unholy, He pours unnumbered blessings. We are to express our thankfulness to Him that we are accepted as workers to cooperate with the Lord Jesus Christ. {MM 255.2}

Those who preach the word of the Lord must live that which they teach. If we receive the grace of God in the heart, we must reveal to others this grace in every word and act. Those who dwell upon the long-sufferance and mercy of Christ must practice His patience and forbearance, and never reveal a spirit of high-handed injustice toward their brethren or others. {MM 255.3}

For "as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same." "In all things it behooved him to be made like unto his brethren." And therefore God "made him to be sin for us." "He hath laid on him the iniquity of us all." Thus, in our flesh, having our nature, laden with iniquity, and himself made to be sin, Christ Jesus lived in this world, tempted in all points like as we are; and yet God always caused him to triumph in him, and made manifest the savor of his knowledge by him in every place. Thus God was manifest in the flesh,—in our flesh, in human flesh laden with sin,—and made to be sin in itself, weak and tempted as ours is. And thus the mystery of God was made known to all nations for the obedience of faith. O, believe it! {September 29, 1896 ATJ, ARSH 621.7}

And this is the mystery of God to-day and forever—God manifest in the flesh, in human flesh, in flesh, laden with sin, tempted and tried. In this flesh, God will make manifest the knowledge of himself in every place where the believer is found. Believe it, and praise his holy name! {September 29, 1896 ATJ, ARSH 621.8}

This is the mystery which to-day, in the third angel's message, is again to be made known to all nations for the obedience of faith. This is the mystery of God, which in this time is to be "finished,"—not only finished in the sense of being ended to the world, but finished in the sense of being brought to completion in its grand work in the believer. This is the time when the mystery of God is to be finished in the sense that God is to be manifest in every true believer, in every place where that believer shall be found. This is, in deed and in truth, the keeping of the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. {September 29, 1896 ATJ, ARSH 621.9}

"Be of good cheer; I have overcome the world,"—I have revealed God in the flesh. Our faith is the victory that has overcome the world. Therefore, and now, "Thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savor of his knowledge by us in every place."
A. T. J. {September 29, 1896 ATJ, ARSH 621.10}

James, are you planning to address my posts? If not, please say so. Otherwise, I will keep hoping you will.

James, please note the Bible never says Jesus came in the likeness of sinless flesh. Also, Jesus had no advantage not available to born-again believers in their fight against sin, self, and Satan. And, the Bible makes it abundantly clear Jesus was tempted in all points like a born-again believer. He was tempted to do wrong just like a born-again believer - not like an unconverted person.

He endured every trial to which we are subject. And He exercised in His own behalf no power that is not freely offered to us. As man, He met temptation, and overcame in the strength given Him from God. {DA 24.2}

Jesus revealed no qualities, and exercised no powers, that men may not have through faith in Him. His perfect humanity is that which all His followers may possess, if they will be in subjection to God as He was. {DA 664.4}

Temptation is resisted when man is powerfully influenced to do a wrong action; and, knowing that he can do it, resists, by faith, with a firm hold upon divine power. This was the ordeal through which Christ passed. {YI, July 20, 1899 par. 10}

"He was tempted to do wrong just like a born-again believer - not like an unconverted person."

Ah - He was tempted just like ALL of us.

There you go quoting AT Jones again when the Holy Spirit through the Lord's servant told us not to do that. So are you saying you take his counsel over that of the Lord's servant?

This is not goading?

I answered those questions in my last response and several times before, but you have just proven how shallow you even attempt to read what God tells me to say.

If you prayerfully go back and read what I posted you would have seen the answer to these exact questions but you don't.

I would ask you, are you attempting to say that those quotes are for Jesus before His baptism? You know they aren't so why do you say that He was carrying the sins of the world since birth?

IF YOU PRAYERFULLY EVEN LOOKED AT JUST MY LAST POST you would see the answer to these questions.

Those quotes took place at the same time this quote took place, which is right next to one of the quotes you used, which shows how deep your prayer to know the truth was.

"Christ thus entered upon his life of conflict to overcome the mighty foe, in bearing the very test Adam failed to endure, that, through successful conflict, he might break the power of Satan, and redeem the race from the disgrace of the fall."{RH August 4, 1874, par. 4}

Those quotes are referring to the baptism of Christ. So the fact that Jesus ENTERED into His life of conflict shows that He didn't have that conflict in the 30 years before His baptism. The fact that you used those quotes and didn't see this proves duplicity on your part.

Like I said in that last post there are varying degrees of the Holy Spirit in the life of Christ like for the Apostles. The Holy Spirit is what prepares us to endure temptation for he will not let us be tempted beyond what we can endure.

So when Jesus ENTERED into His life of conflict after His baptism it shows He had more to endure the further He went into His ministry. Anyone with Holy Spirit should be able to see this.

I have covered this several times in this thread. Remember my post about the 'Inclusios'? Book end prophecies? The first time the Holy Spirit alighted upon Christ in the form of a dove was the beginning of the inclusio and then in Gethsemane was the second time.

In the first temptation scenario Jesus was not suffering the wrath of the Father like He was in Gethsemane. He was ENTERING His life of conflict which kept getting more intense till the end.

Also, like I have answered before in this very thread... to feel the weight of the sins of the flesh is way different than to accept the sins of the world upon His head and carry them. Jesus pleaded with the Father for there to be a different way because He knew it would cut Him off from communication with His Father. Are you saying Jesus was cut off His whole life? That is so ignorant that I want to cry talking to you.

But now since you insisted that I respond, and I found the perfect quote stating that Jesus ENTERED into His life of conflict after His baptism, how does this fit in your interpretation that Jesus carried the weight of the sins of the world since birth? Doesn't this disprove your statement? Aren't you going to acknowledge you were wrong about that? I know you will not because of your pride and self sufficiency.

So to answer your question those quotes are from when He entered into temptation in the the wilderness. BUT they are nothing compared to what He endured in the Garden of Gethsemane when He took the sins of the world upon Himself cutting Him off from the Father.

The difference is so obvious I am wondering how you cannot see it?

Or are you saying Jesus was cut off from the Father since His baptism?

I think the problem is in the use of the two words, "sinless flesh", which I can't find anywhere in EGW's writings, therefore, if she doesn't use those two words together in her writings, then neither should we.

Now, I do see that EGW uses the words, "sinful flesh", therefore, we need to determine what she meant by those words when she wrote them in her day, rather than what they mean in our day, which I suggest be done in a thread of its own.