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Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: Mountain Man] #165696
06/05/14 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: jsot
So since the beginning of this thread when I did say the words "sinless flesh" I didn't mean it to mean He was in an unfallen body, I meant it like He had never sinned and had never even contemplated sinning. I said those words to directly contradict the blasphemy Mt Man was saying, and I have not used those words since. But what I am saying is the same context, Jesus was "above sinners". He was accounted as a sinner for us in Gethsemane but He never had lusts in His mind.

Does this make sense?


Nope.


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Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: Mountain Man] #165705
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I guess there is nothing I can do to help you understand.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: Mountain Man] #165707
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Everything that God inspired me to say on this thread has been said except this...

When God spoke to those witnessing the baptism of Christ many only heard noise, not the words of God.

When the Prophets spoke many wanted to kill them for the Spirit that motivated them.

When Jesus spoke many only heard parables instead of the truth within them.

When the Latter rain fell, everyone who had rejected the message pronounced before the Holy Spirit came were not there to hear a second proclamation. They had fallen away.

For those truly intent on learning the truth of the things written about here go back and read again, and pray for the Holy Spirit to enlighten you and disarm you prejudice and self sufficiency. For everyone else, I pity you for what you are about to go through.

Father please forgive them for they know not what they do.

Soon many here will see the prophecies God revealed to me come to pass and seek me for more knowledge. Too bad you didn't know the hour of your visitation to get as much preparation as you need.

For those who have taunted me and rejected the message, death will not be easy for you. The words weighed in the balance and found wanting will be transcribed on your garments and you will howl in agony.

We are in the time of the fifth Generation.

The time of the eighth King of Rev 17 is now.

The four winds have been held but soon will be loosed.

The 144,000 are almost sealed and the Latter rain will fall soon.

But those who want to lead the church in a new direction will be in misery very soon.

This is a hard thing to write. But even so Lord, please come soon.

Amen.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: Mountain Man] #165725
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James, the Bible clearly says Jesus was pointed in all points like a born-again believer. ***** STAFF EDIT *****

Last edited by Daryl; 06/07/14 12:30 AM. Reason: Edited inappropriate content as it goaded another inappropriate response.
Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: Mountain Man] #165733
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
James, the Bible clearly says Jesus was pointed in all points like a born-again believer. ***** STAFF EDIT *****.


I have stated over and over that Jesus was tempted beyond what anyone else could ever endure, made stronger because the two natures were mysteriously blended within Him.

"Christ could have done nothing during His earthly ministry in saving fallen man if the divine had not been blended with the human. The limited capacity of man cannot define this wonderful mystery—the blending the two natures, the divine and the human. It can never be explained. Man must wonder and be silent. And yet man is privileged to be a partaker of the divine nature, and in this way he can to some degree enter into the mystery."

No one else could have borne as much as Christ did in the wilderness or Gethsemane.



Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: Mountain Man] #165752
06/07/14 02:20 PM
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James, you have made it clear Jesus was not tempted in all points like a born-again believer. Please support this assertion from the Bible or the SOP. Thank you.

PS - Daryl, if you perceive this request as "goading" then please feel free to reword it in a way that conveys the essence of the request. Thank you.

Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: jamesonofthunder] #165753
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Daryl, what do you make of the following pronouncements? Should we fear for our safety and salvation? These are serious sayings. My wife, children, grandchildren, and friends are concerned. Please advice. Thank you.

Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
Everything that God inspired me to say on this thread has been said except this...

For those truly intent on learning the truth of the things written about here go back and read again, and pray for the Holy Spirit to enlighten you and disarm you prejudice and self sufficiency. For everyone else, I pity you for what you are about to go through. . .

Father please forgive them for they know not what they do.

Soon many here will see the prophecies God revealed to me come to pass and seek me for more knowledge. Too bad you didn't know the hour of your visitation to get as much preparation as you need.

For those who have taunted me and rejected the message, death will not be easy for you. The words weighed in the balance and found wanting will be transcribed on your garments and you will howl in agony.

But those who want to lead the church in a new direction will be in misery very soon.

This is a hard thing to write. But even so Lord, please come soon.

Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: Mountain Man] #165755
06/07/14 07:51 PM
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***** STAFF EDIT *****

Last edited by Daryl; 06/08/14 01:09 AM. Reason: Removed Completely.

Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: Mountain Man] #165758
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MM - asygo and Rosangela both said that Jesus was not tempted as we are also, not just jsot. Look back where asygo spoke of Christ neglecting his wife, or Rosangela saying Jesus never had to fight a bad habit. These arguments assume that the way one is tempted involves the situation, Jesus had to be married in order to experience the same temptation. That is an assumption on asygo's part which is not supported. The Bible is clear, Jesus WAS tempted in all points just as we are, yet without sin, Hebrews 4:15


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Jesus denied self just like a born-again believer. [Re: Mountain Man] #165759
06/07/14 11:07 PM
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APL, it seems like Arnold and Rosangela believe Jesus was tempted in all points during the three times He was tempted in the desert. In other words, the root of all temptations boil down to those three different points. They encompass the essence of all the different ways people can be tempted. It suffices for being tempted in a bazillion different ways.

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