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Re: Biblical Predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: His child] #166159
06/24/14 01:51 PM
06/24/14 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
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You are welcome. I don't know the day or hour or if Obama will leave office as scheduled or extend his term due to a national crisis. I do know that it is time to be serious about our relationship with Jesus and to be sure of our calling and to make every effort to get the three angels' message to the world. The last events will be rapid ones. Like dominoes in rapid succession. I am amazed at how difficult it is to awaken the sleeping saints. God bless His people everywhere,

If you are right, if prophecy says Jesus will return within President Obama's term or before Pope Benedict dies - then, indeed, we must wake up and proclaim the 3AM like never before. I hope you are right. If so, the USA will start enforcing Sunday Laws soon. It will be Headline News soon.

Re: Biblical predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: His child] #166168
06/24/14 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
If Matthew 7:15 is rightly understood "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" light might come to those who will see.

SDA commit many sins and this is one: they speak of the Antichrist completely outside the context of the term. Because of this gross error of interpretation, their prophetic doctrine suffers dissonance and discord. But look carefully at how John defines the term.
  • 1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.
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  • 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
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  • 1 John 4:3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
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  • 2 John 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

1. The Antichrist is someone who comes AFTER Christ.
2. He is the epitome of the "spirit of antichrist".
3. He denies that Jesus is the Christ, i.e. says Jesus of Nazareth IS NOT THE MESSIAH.

"Saying Jesus IS NOT THE MESSIAH" is refusing to confess that the Saviour Messiah (Jesus Christ in Greek transliteration) was incarnated; repudiating John 1:14, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."

But ALL Christians, whether in lip-service or sincerely, confess that Jesus is the Christ. Only a non-Christian is Antichrist; and since such is coming then the Bible prophesies the ascendancy of Atheism and/or "Heathenism". What then about those who prophesy saying, "Sunday laws are coming! Sunday laws are coming!" I say to you, if Matthew 7:15 is rightly understood "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" light might come to them who will see.

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Re: Biblical predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: Mountain Man] #166171
06/24/14 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
If so, the USA will start enforcing Sunday Laws soon. It will be Headline News soon.
So you don't consider it a possibility that the USA will start enforcing Sunday Laws soon, but yet Jesus doesn't return during Obama's presidency?

Do you not consider that the USA IS enforcing "Sunday laws" today? Maybe it's "states" instead.

Re: Biblical predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: James Peterson] #166172
06/24/14 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson

"Saying Jesus IS NOT THE MESSIAH" is refusing to confess that the Saviour Messiah (Jesus Christ in Greek transliteration) was incarnated; repudiating John 1:14, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."

But ALL Christians, whether in lip-service or sincerely, confess that Jesus is the Christ. Only a non-Christian is Antichrist; and since such is coming then the Bible prophesies the ascendancy of Atheism and/or "Heathenism". What then about those who prophesy saying, "Sunday laws are coming! Sunday laws are coming!" I say to you, if Matthew 7:15 is rightly understood "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" light might come to them who will see.

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I'm aware of some religions, who consider themselves Christian, who say that Jesus was a created being, denying that the Word was God in the flesh, but is "a" god.

Re: Biblical Predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: James Peterson] #166173
06/24/14 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson

It is evident, comparing scripture with like-scripture (the right thing to do), that:

Quote:
"to deny" that Jesus is the Christ
IS
"to not confess" that Christ came in the flesh ...

... something which only non-Christians do. For refusing to make such confession is made with the mouth as Pharaoh Ramses, "Who is the Lord, that I should obey His voice to let Israel go? I do not know the Lord, nor will I let Israel go." (Exod. 5:2) Secondly, John said that the spirit of the Antichrist was present in his day and that his was "the last hour", i.e. the time of the fall of Jerusalem. Read Acts 12.

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Is it Buddhists believe that Jesus did indeed exist and was a "good man"? But doesn't believing that "Christ came in the flesh" mean something more than what Buddhists believe?

Re: Biblical predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: James Peterson] #166178
06/24/14 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson

SDA commit many sins and this is one: they speak of the Antichrist completely outside the context of the term. Because of this gross error of interpretation, their prophetic doctrine suffers dissonance and discord. But look carefully at how John defines the term.


God revealed the identity of the anti Christ to a whole movement a good 200 years before there was an Adventist.

The Protestant Reformation in the 1500s literally changed the course of history bringing true religious freedom to the world and allowing the truth of our Savior Jesus Christ to be proclaimed.

For over a thousand years a system that CALLED ITSELF CHRISTIAN had hidden the true Savior, Jesus Christ, from the people. It changed God's laws, and set itself up as the ones with the "keys" to heaven that even God had to obey their decisions. When the light of truth shone forth to dispel the darkness of the papal church oppression it was because those reformers KNEW WHO THE ANTICHRIST WAS!!!!!

Of course the devil knows how to manipulate things to keep his "antichrists" in power.
He has now used religious freedom to bring in a host of unchristian things, which will be/and already is, used as an argument that the world needs a "pope" to align it on the "right path".

Don't kid yourself --
It is coming.
Sunday law and a world wide forced false worship that will call itself "Christian".


Originally Posted By: James P}[list

[*]1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.
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[*]1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
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[*]1 John 4:3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
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[*]2 John 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
[/list]


John is not limiting his definitions, but giving examples.

Notice he is saying there are MANY "antichrists".
Many are coming with wrong messages about Christ.

Anyone that denies Christ's divinity is NOT teaching about Christ correctly.

Anyone that denies the relationship between God the Father and Jesus is not teaching about Christ correctly.

Anyone that claims Jesus was not in human flesh, but in some superior form is not teaching about Christ correctly.

There are many deceptive teachings about Christ in the world. Almost all have some truth coupled with some error.
Just because a person has one part CORRECT does not mean they can't be antichrist.

Satan himself believes Christ is the Son of God and that He came in the flesh, and he has no trouble allowing his representatives to say the same if it furthers his purposes. (Mark 1:24; 5:7; Luke 4:34; Acts 16:17)

Quote:
1. The Antichrist is someone who comes AFTER Christ.
2. He is the epitome of the "spirit of antichrist".
3. He denies that Jesus is the Christ, i.e. says Jesus of Nazareth IS NOT THE MESSIAH.

"Saying Jesus IS NOT THE MESSIAH" is refusing to confess that the Saviour Messiah the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." But ALL Christians, whether in lip-service or sincerely, confess that Jesus is the Christ. Only a non-Christian is Antichrist; and since such is coming then the Bible prophesies the ascendancy of Atheism

///

Atheism and other forms of denial of the true God, has been in the world since the time of Nimrod. Atheism in modern times had its primary rise over 50 years ago. People in general today are tired of atheism and are turning more and more to spiritualistic forms to try to meet their spiritual needs. Spiritualistic forms (Christianized New Age) is invading the churches at an alarming rate.

It may interest you that Jesuits and some other Catholic orders were key leaders in "Christianized New Age" --
Teilhard de Chardin for one -- during his lifetime looked upon with some distrust is now quite a sought after writer. The Dominican Matthew Fox, was another. And now we have a Jesuit Pope!

Bible prophecy tells us the last crises is concerns WORSHIP!
It's not about atheism, it's about worship.

Count the number of times the word WORSHIP, both false and true, is used in Rev. 13-14.

The last day Antichrist system is a COUNTERFEIT worship system.
And the main points of identification of the true worship are:

1. They worship the CREATOR God. Links Rev. 14:7 with Ex. 20:11 (Most Christians have now thrown out the six day creation week and believe in a "Christianized" evolution which opens the door to a flood of false beliefs on salvation, sin, the Sabbath, and God's power to create.

2. They keep the commandments of God. (Rev. 12:17; 14:12)

3. They have the faith of Jesus (Rev. 14:12; 3:20




False Christ's are coming, (Matt. 24:24; Mark 13:22)
prophecy is being re-interpreted to hide truth.
The test will be over the CREATOR GOD, and the sign of His Creation.
Those Who walk with the Lamb (Jesus our Savior) will keep his commandments and grow strong in faith in Him.

Sunday laws will be part of the last great "worship" deception.

Re: Biblical predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: James Peterson] #166181
06/25/14 03:43 AM
06/25/14 03:43 AM
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WORKAHOLISM IN AMERICA IS HURTING THE ECONOMY
Hmmm. How can we best fix that problem. Hmmm...


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Biblical predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: James Peterson] #166189
06/25/14 01:20 PM
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Hmmmm. Wasn't it Europe who's economy was so bad, the ones who are guaranteed a vacation? And the idea of sick pay irritates me as if you are not sick, you lose out. Liberalism: everyone pays for the benefit of the select few. But then again, maybe everyone suddenly feels sick at the end of the year...

The gist of what I'm saying, is that actual facts do not matter, the article makes several illogical jumps, but it's the people who will blindly believe it and will demand that laws are passed.

Quote:
That weekend most of us enjoy come Friday night is not backed up by American policy, but instead is a voluntary employer perk.
That was out of place, but most likely the main intent.

Re: Biblical predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: James Peterson] #166192
06/25/14 01:52 PM
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Bingo!


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Biblical predictions of Antichrist & Sunday Laws [Re: James Peterson] #166194
06/25/14 05:17 PM
06/25/14 05:17 PM
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kland - the whole paragraph sets the agenda... "We’re even one of just 16 countries that doesn’t make sure that workers get at least some time off during the seven-day week. That weekend most of us enjoy come Friday night is not backed up by American policy, but instead is a voluntary employer perk."


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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