Thank you. But there are too many who are promoting that CO2 is our biggest threat and totally ignoring air and water pollution. That is the point I'm trying to make.

I'd disagree with that. Plastic floating in the ocean is not going to kill wildlife like radiation is doing today. Plastic floating in the ocean is not going to contaminate the produce fields along the west coast like radiation is doing today. Plastic floating in the ocean is not going to spread radiation fallout like it is coming from Japan doing today.

What I'm trying to say is that all the global warming people are blaming things on imaginary issues and ignoring the real cause. Global warming is a farce to overlook the real cause. If you read the reports from enenews, which is just a collection from other sites, you will see many places have just stopped monitoring radiation, have raised the allowable limits so they can say it's below acceptable levels, and they don't even test for radiation. But they insist any problems is not from Japan, that there is no radiation, that if there were, radiation is healthful to people.

Man I wish I could take you by the neck and point you in the right direction. God has put this on my heart for years. I am an expert in this field. Why do people just assume they know more than someone else?



It is estimated that plastic in our oceans kill over 30 million birds and 5 million sea animals per year.


This whale washed up on a British beach. In its stomach....the remains of 23 plastic bags.

This next one also died from plastic...



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ch-In-stomach--

If you think that the few still born births that are occurring because of Fukushima is worse for the planet than the plastic garbage floating in our oceans you are mad and totally ignorant of what is really happening. Here is link to a search I did on images of the animals that are being killed by ingesting plastic.

click here for images of sea animals killed by plastic



If there are this many pictures then imagine how many died without a camera man taking pictures!

[img]http://www.no-sea-and-earth-pollution.org/index_files/garbage-floating-in-ocean.jpg[/img]

What is the greatest threat?

I don't know --
But I do know that mankind is destroying the earth.
With their garbage
With their chemicals
Insecticides, herbicides and all manner of other drugs and chemicals to make things bigger, mature faster, resistant, etc etc

With radiation
Even our food is being "radiated" so it doesn't spoil so fast.
With their messing around with genetics of plants and even animals.
Robbing food plants of their ability to reproduce
Cutting down trees and forests --the lungs of the earth.
The list goes on and on.


Years ago there were a lot of colorful small birds -- blue birds, swallows, finches and many others, now its rare to see one, we only have the bigger crows, and magpies in plenty.


Rev. 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time thou... shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

No wonder 2 Peter 3 tells us only a fire that shall dissolve the very elements and melt them with fervent heat will cleanse the earth before God recreates everything new.

Ummm, could it be because other people ask, why do some people just assume they know more than someone else?

Obviously they don't know more, as most recently pointed out.


Well, that's significant.
So why are you talking about "ones"?

I don't recall saying the biggest issue are a few still born births (deaths?). I recall saying things like an entire species being or threatened with being killed off. Like adult sea stars basically exploding their contents. Like 30-50 % of them diseased.

Your word, not mind, but I would agree someone is ignorant.


Maybe you are not reading.

For reasons that remain baffling to scientists, starfish are dying by the millions, in the grips of a mysterious wasting disease that dissolves their bodies into goo. “I’d do beach walks along a 50-m stretch of shoreline, and count 500 or 1,000 of them,”

“It affects over twenty species on our coast and it’s been causing catastrophic mortality.” [...] From what Harvell and her team see as they survey beaches [of Washington's San Juan archipelago], there’s not much time for these starfish [...] “My expectation is that within the next month all of the stars will die.”

All of the stars will die. I agree it hasn't happened yet, there are still some alive, but wouldn't you think all stars, 20 species, would indeed be catastrophic rather than "one"?

If sea stars are wiped out along these shores, there’s a potential for not just local, but global extinction.

“This is the largest disease outbreak that we know of ever in the oceans. [...] I’m expecting that in the next two weeks we will lose virtually all the stars at this site [in Washington]


S. California fishermen ‘skunked… haven’t seen a squid’, usually 10,000+ lbs/day — ‘Complete crashes’ at oyster hatcheries — Sardines, mackerel missing in areas — Pelican sites alarmingly deserted — Record # of sick sea lions — Ultra-rare whales appear after decades — Mammals, birds, fish in odd places



Yep, totally.

Yes, that's a good example of the fraud going on. But some many have bought into it hook, line, and sinker.

There's one now.

I would venture to say that anyone who believes government propaganda about imaginary man-made global warming is denying creation and the flood of the Bible.

Because James, I know what the evolutionists say, but what do you say has caused tropical fossils to be found at the poles and other such latitudes? This earth has been heating up and cooling down ever since. Why even today is much cooler than yesterday and it's the middle of June!

I've worked on the oilspill in Valdez AK and was a consultant on the oilspill in the Gulf of Mexico. My work has been valued in the field of global tragedies. I don't say these things lightly. You have a strong opinion that you seem determined to foster. I have actually been there, and worked to resolve issues. I lived in Alaska and seen the effects of global warming. I've been around the world several times and have seen the sky so full of polutants that it chokes babies. I've been to Mexico City and other places where there are absolutely no controlls on air polution. And then I come back here and listen to people like you who seem to have never been out of their back yard saying there's no effect on warming the planet globally from air polution and it literally disgusts me. I'm done here.

The Exxon Valdez oil still was an environmental disaster, but how does working on that project produce expertise in global warming exactly?

Was much of the area of Canada and North America once covered by Glaciers? Yes. Did they disappear? Yes. Ice age floods causing the drainage of Lake Missoula is the best explanation for the Bretz floods of Eastern Washington, Oregon and the Columbia Gorge, and it happened in a matter of weeks. That ice melted. Why? Industrial pollution? Nope.

Why was Greenland named Greenland?

Is it right to change historical data on temperatures as shown above in the "chiropractor" link?

James, besides working on the oilspill not making you an expert on global warming, how does seeing air pollution mean it causes global warming?

What we are getting at is some base scientific method concepts which you seem to be having problems with whether it is seeing bubbles means you know what is in them, working on the oilspill means you are an expert in an unrelated field, seeing babies choking means the world is warming. I think your disgust has more to do with you not understanding the scientific method than anything else...

Until you address the link APL gave, I can only count you being as dishonest as Hansen. Is it allowed to change historical data? Does that mean it was wrong in the past? If so, is it correct now, and how do you know that?

Please address the fraud in the link.

APL, I didn't fully understand how Hansen adjusted the temperature record? Was it picking and choosing what years to show, using a different scale, or just straight forward changing the data?