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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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Political and corporate elite shun GM food on their own plate
by Carolanne Wright
(NaturalNews) With a sad twist of irony, corporate and government elite dine on safe, organic food while the masses, those very people who are supposedly represented and protected by their governments, are poisoned by hidden genetically modified organisms, pesticides and dangerous contaminants. The presidential family demands organic food in their kitchen, yet behind closed doors, shake hands with the biotech industry. China's top brass is fed by an exclusive, gated organic garden while the rest of the population consumes GM food, steroid contaminated meat and dairy laced with melamine. Even Monsanto's own employee's command non-genetically modified food in their canteen. Access to clean, organic and healthy food is not a given right anymore -- it has become a political battleground with the average citizen suffering the loss.
White House double-take
While First Lady Michelle Obama digs up the White House lawn to plant an organic garden, her husband promotes a GMO agenda within his administration. "You know, in my household, over the last year we have just shifted to organic," she said in a New Yorker interview during Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign. Organic produce from the garden feeds the Obama family and visiting dignitaries alike. Seems okay so far. But then take a look at Obama's laundry-list of presidential appointed positions with biotech ties: USDA head Roger Beachy, a former director at Monsanto, FDA food safety czar Michael Taylor, one-time vice president for public policy at Monsanto, Commissioner of the USDA Tom Vilsack who created the Governors' Biotechnology Partnership. Under President Obama, 10 new GM crops have been approved for 'safe consumption.'
Spiked fences protect organic gardens from the people
The political elite in China enjoy the safest of food -- organic produce, grass-fed beef from Inner Mongolia, rice free of pesticides, chemicals or genetically modified organisms. Compare this with the food supply of ordinary citizens that is laden with pesticides, industrial chemicals and GMOs. Children have become sick and died from tainted baby formula and milk products. Blindness and death have resulted from adults consuming fake liquor. Yet Chinese leaders have their own protected food sources of the highest quality. In Beijing, an organic farm is surrounded by a six-foot spiked fence while security personnel guard the entrance. The garden produces food for top-notch officials only. Beidaihe Sanitorium, a seaside haven for retired party cadres, exclusively uses a specialty rice that is organic and free of GMOs. As for the public, they can purchase the small remaining surplus of the grain at 15 times the cost of regular rice. All the while, the government continues to approve GMOs and harmful chemicals for general consumption.
GMO-free meals at Monsanto
Remember the notice at a Monsanto staff canteen stating the decision "to remove, as far as practicable, GM soya and maize from all food products served in our restaurant. We have taken the above steps to ensure that you, the customer, can feel confident in the food we serve." According to Tony Coombes, the company's spokesperson, "Yes, this is the case, and it is because we believe in choice."
Evidently the average citizen is not allowed the same courtesy of choice considering GMOs have infiltrated the food supply and are not labeled in North America. Only those who can afford the price tag of organic food are able to protect themselves from harmful contaminants. As for the rest of the population, they are the ones who will suffer the devastating health consequences of a corrupt system.
Sources for this article include:
"Meet Monsanto's Number One Lobbyist: Barack Obama" Jon Rappoport. Infowars, September 24, 2012. Retrieved on October 2, 2012 from: http://www.infowars.com
"White House Will Not say Where It Gets Its Meat (And I Don't Blame Them)" David Kirby, Huff Post Green, April 20, 2010. Retrieved on October 2, 2012 from: http://www.huffingtonpost.com
"Does Monsanto Man Mitt Romney Secretly Eat Organic?" Tom Philpott. MotherJones, September 26, 2012. Retrieved on October 2, 2012 from: http://www.motherjones.com
"In China, what you eat tells who you are" Barbara Demick, Los Angeles Times, September 16, 2011. Retrieved on October 2, 2012 from: http://articles.latimes.com
"Amid milk scare, China's elite eat all-organic" Associated Press, NBC News, September 24, 2008. Retrieved on October 2, 2012 from: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26874854/#.UGrObal9mlI
"GM food banned in Monsanto canteen" Michael McCarthy, The Independent, December 22, 1999. Retrieved on October 2, 2012 from: http://www.independent.co.uk
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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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Pollen from GM soybeans threatens Mexico's honey sales
by PF Louis
(NaturalNews) A large part of Mexico's agricultural export is honey. They are ranked fifth worldwide for exporting the bees' food, but recently Germany rejected a batch of honey from Mexico. Pollen from genetically modified (GM) soybean plants was found in the honey being imported.
Bee keepers in the region and agricultural authorities of the Mexican state of Campeche, one of the states in the Yucatan Peninsula at the southeastern tip of Mexico, were mystified. So a research team familiar with bees and Mexico came in to determine what was going on with GMOs affecting bee colonies in Campeche.
Apparently, some locals thought that GMO contamination from crops considered safe for human consumption was okay in other nations. There is plenty of GM soy declared fit for human consumption in Mexico. Others didn't realize that the bees from local apiaries would be collecting pollen from nearby GM soybean plants. No matter, German buyers weren't buying.
David Roubik, senior staff scientist at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute, and his colleagues found that six honey samples from nine hives in the Campeche region contained soy pollen in addition to pollen from many wild plant species. The pollen came from crops near the bee colonies in several small apiaries.
According to a quote by Roubik from a source article, "Bee colonies act as extremely sensitive environmental indicators. Bees from a single colony may gather nectar and pollen resources from flowers in a 200-square-kilometer area." [1]
Wait a minute, 200 sq km is 124 square miles, or a 124-mile by 124-mile area! How would the USDA's four-mile buffer between GMO and non-GMO fields work if that's true?
Meanwhile, back in the USA
The rural area of Jackson County in Oregon has been a controversial hot spot of food war activity with local non-GMO farmers raising their fists to battle Syngenta's GM intrusions that have already contaminated some of their organic or standard commercial crops and seeds.
Syngenta is not allowed to seed their GM creations on open fields in Switzerland, where they have their headquarters, because GMO cultivation is banned there.
So they seek other regions where the land is fertile and the climate's right and rent plots to try out their GM crop seeds and see how well they resist herbicides like Roundup or whatever else they think should be tested agriculturally. Safety and contamination testing isn't part of their agenda.
Jackson County has been invaded by Syngenta, and their experimental GM crops have violated the four-mile buffer zone mandated by the USDA for beet and chard seed plots. Syngenta had fields within one mile of three organic farming operations, and further investigation has discovered that Syngenta had been in Jackson County operating undercover in unmarked rented fields since 2009. [2]
This area is big on cultivating organic beet and chard seeds and other organic crops. Sugar beets and chard are of the same species, Beta vulgaris. So Syngenta's GM beets threaten both non-GMO and organic beets and chard, and their seeds. Since agricultural authorities are not listening to these local farmers, they formed their own movement called "GMO Free Jackson County."
The created a petition to bring the whole matter of banning GMO seeds and cultivation to Jackson County. After obtaining over 6,700 signatures, Measure 15-119 to completely ban GMO seeds and farming will be on the ballot May 20, 2014. [3]
In Canada, non-GM alfalfa farmers are resisting Health Canada's green light to start planting GM alfalfa in eastern Canadian provinces, which are not as involved in exporting alfalfa and alfalfa seeds to nations that reject GMOs. Western and Central provinces need that market. So they are putting up the most resistance without much support.
Canada has already had major agricultural losses with non-GM flax and flax seed contamination from GM flax, as well as large scale issues with organic canola. In Washington State (USA) during the summer of 2013, an alfalfa farmer's hay was rejected from export because of GMO contamination. [4]
There is no possibility of non-GMO and GMO co-existence without contamination, despite GMO industry and corrupt agricultural agency reassurances. Pushing for consumer labeling implies that co-existence is okay. It is not! Label laws won't matter when all organic or non-GM crop foods are contaminated from GM seeds and crops.
There needs to be a cooperative effort between consumers and non-GMO farmers to resist biotech industry's takeover of the food supply by banning its cultivation in as many local areas as possible. Retail labeling will do nothing to stop these GMO monsters, especially here in a fast-food nation where most don't really care what's in their food.
Sources for this article include:
[1] http://esciencenews.com
[2] http://www.usobserver.com
[3] http://www.gmofreejacksoncounty.org
[4] http://www.thestar.com
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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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Wait a minute, 200 sq km is 124 square miles, or a 124-mile by 124-mile area! How would the USDA's four-mile buffer between GMO and non-GMO fields work if that's true? Interesting math... 124 sq miles is not a square of 124 miles by 124 miles. But the math is worse! :-) 200 sq km is 77 sq miles. And 77 sq miles is a square about 8.8 miles by 8.8 miles.
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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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I caught that the 124 sq miles, too, and then saw you already caught it!
So if the buffer is between the hive and the GMO fields, 4.4 would be adequate? Assuming bees will go an equal distance in all directions, meaning the mathematical buffer calculations are almost adequate, that is, there was a coherent reason behind it?
I didn't think soybeans was much of a honey or pollen source. They don't require it. But after searching, I found some noticing no bees on their beans and others saying soybean is a major honey producer. It looks like it depends on how well the beans are growing: water, soil, weather conditions, year-to-year, and location in the country (south and east are best).
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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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Pushing for consumer labeling implies that co-existence is okay. It is not! Label laws won't matter when all organic or non-GM crop foods are contaminated from GM seeds and crops. Non GMO crop Farmers have lost extensively by GMO contamination. They are usually the ones to have their crops rejected, have their seeds taken away from them and destroyed, or be taken to court for "stealing" the patent rights of the GMO plants because a neighbors GMO field contaminated their crops, while in fact they wanted nothing to do with process. From what I understand a farmer in Australia has taken the GM growers to court for contaminating his "organic" crops. It's a first, and non GMO farmers are fearful of the outcome. If it goes in their favor it may be a break through for them, but if it goes against them they may lose all rights to grow organic or nonGMO crops. A landmark legal battle between two farmers over alleged GM contamination has started in the Western Australian Supreme Court. The case is expected to determine GM farmers’ liability if their crops affect neighboring territories. From http://rt.com/news/gm-crop-contamination-australia-371/
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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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Monsanto's New Herbicide-resistant GM Crops Threaten American Vegetable Farmers
by L.J. Devon, Staff Writer
(NaturalNews) Many American corn and soybean farmers embrace genetically modified seeds and herbicide chemicals. This biotechnology invention helps them produce higher crop yields without having to worry about weeds. Today's farmers can just apply, en masse, chemicals like glyphosate, which knock out the weeds, allowing the hybrid corn and soybeans to thrive. While this science seems to increase certain food production, it is actually limiting vegetable farmers.
"You have a lot of crops that are sensitive to these herbicides," USA Today reported Neil Rhodes, director of the herbicide stewardship program at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, saying. "With vegetable farmers facing the prospect of a much larger area being sprayed with them in coming years, 'I'm not surprised they're concerned.'"
Drift and evaporation causing herbicides to spread to vegetable fields, causing deformities, damaging yields
While 93% of all soybeans and 85% of all feed corn grown in the USA is genetically modified to be glyphosate-resistant, herbs and vegetables are damaged in the process. Sometimes the damage to vegetables can be seen up to 100 miles away from an herbicide-laced field. This damage is caused by drift, which is when pesticides sprayed in one field evaporate or travel by wind into neighboring fields that may contain susceptible broad-leaved vegetable crops. Those farmers who are most affected live in the Midwest and include those who grow potatoes, tomatoes, squash, beans and peas.
"The herbicides are applied to fields as a liquid, from rigs pulled by tractors," said Franklin Egan, a research ecologist with the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Agricultural Research Service. "The vast majority falls straight to the ground but a small fraction can move as water droplets carried by the wind. An even smaller fraction can evaporate and move as a gas."
A case in 2012 out of California showed how herbicide sprayed in the San Joaquin Valley could damage cotton fields 100 miles away. Drift has prompted vegetable farmers to take action against Monsanto and Dow.
Dow to reformulate herbicide while Monsanto hesitates
Representatives from the Save Our Crops group have come together to convince the biotech firms to reformulate their new herbicides, which are projected to become the new chemical standards for agriculture in 2015 and beyond. A member of the group, Jody Herr from Lowell, IN, said his tomatoes were turning out strange when confronted by drifting herbicide. "The leaves were curled, the branches were twisted and misshapen," he said. "The fruit they set was deformed."
Steve Smith, chairman of the Save Our Crops group reported that Dow is on board to make important changes to their herbicide, but Monsanto continues to hesitate. Dow reformulated 2,4-D to make it less prone to vaporize and drift, while also rewriting the label to restrict farmers from using it when the wind is blowing toward a sensitive crop. The other herbicide up for change is Monsanto's dicamba, which has been around for more than 40 years. Both biotech juggernauts are waiting through a regulatory process. Dow's new Enlist corn and GM soybean seed is designed to be resistant to herbicide 2,4-D. Monsanto awaits approval for Roundup Ready 2 Extend corn and soy, which is resistant to dicamba.
The new herbicides are designed to mimic a naturally occurring plant growth hormone. "The plant literally grows itself to death," said Egan.
A tragic trajectory, regardless
Whether they change or not, the new herbicides will be manufactured in increased volumes across American agriculture, creating an ever so intrusive and abusive chemical state, inflicted haplessly upon the environment. Welcoming new versions of Roundup will perpetuate farmers' notion to take surrounding plant life for granted, as biodiversity is disregarded in agriculture -- traded away for limited and controlled food variety. These chemical increases will expand GMO dominance while prairies, wildflowers and medicinal herbs are wiped out at all costs.
Superweeds - a growing consequence of overused herbicides
On top of that, overuse of glyphosate and related herbicides has led to the rise of chemical-resistant superweeds, which cannot be stopped no matter how much chemical is poured into the soil. Gregory Jaffe, biotechnology director at the Center for Science in the Public Interest admits this, saying, "overuse and misuse by farmers and the biotech industry has led to the development of glyphosate-resistant weeds."
In the fight against nature, which is a lost and dangerous science, biotech firms have been working overtime to develop new herbicides that are much stronger than the newly emerging superweeds. It's only a matter of time before the superweeds outsmart the scientists again as they adapt to their harsh chemical environment.
The silent chemical warfare is only beginning, as the hybridization of seed and food advances forward. The thrashing of the natural Earth continues. Will you be a part of agricultural restoration or will you continue to buy into the chemical warfare hashed out onto the environment, food and human life?
Sources for this article include:
http://www.usatoday.com
http://science.naturalnews.com
http://science.naturalnews.com
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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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GMOs Will Unleash Global Killer 'Ecocide' Across the Planet, Warns Prominent Scientist
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor
(NaturalNews) A top scientist and "risk engineering" expert is now publicly warning that GMOs pose a dire, genuine threat to the continuation of life on Earth. Nassim Taleb, author of The Black Swan and Fooled by Randomness, says that GMOs have the potential to cause "an irreversible termination of life at some scale, which could be the planet."
His full explanation is presented in this public paper which describes how even a small risk per crop species can still result in global ecocide if pursued with abandon. As Taleb explains, "The risk of ruin is not sustainable, like a resource that gets depleted in the long term (even in the short term). By the ruin theorems, if you incur a tiny probability of ruin, as a "one-off" risk, survive it, then repeat the exposure, you will eventually go bust with probability 1." (Where "probability 1" means a 100% chance.)
Rational thinking automatically leads to skepticism of GMO safety
This sober, scientific conclusion is of course entirely rational and founded in clear thinking. Self-deluded GMO zealots and paid Monsanto trolls predictably try to gloss over these risks in their quest for profits and power, but that does not mean such risks do not exist.
In fact, as Taleb convincingly argues, genetically engineered crops are specifically designed to have a survival advantage over conventional crops, allowing them to better resist droughts or infestations of pests or weeds. This survival advantage -- if it's as real as seed manipulators claim -- means genetically engineered plants can out-compete non-GMO crops in open fields. The genetic pollution which is already underway across North America will only get worse, therefore, and there's no reversing it because all living systems -- even genetically engineered ones -- have a natural drive to spread, multiply and survive.
The result is that GMO crops will out-compete and thereby displace non-GMO crops over time. Why does this matter? Because the rise of GMOs is nearly synonymous with the collapse of genetic diversity in seeds and food crops. You don't have to go back very far in history to find examples of mono-cultured food crops failing due to lack of genetic diversity, either:
- The Irish Potato Famine of 1845-1852 was caused by over-reliance on a genetically narrow food crop. Shockingly, one-third of the Irish population relied on a single crop, and when potato blight (a fungal microorganism) successfully attacked the crop, over one million people died from starvation.
- The current crisis in world banana production is caused because nearly all commercial banana trees are genetically identical clones.
- The near-collapse of Florida citrus due to disease is also caused by a striking lack of genetic diversity across citrus orchards.
A loss of genetic diversity is a pathway to global disease and starvation
Any legitimate scientist in the fields of anthropology, genetics or agriculture will warn you that low genetic diversity is the first step toward crisis and collapse of any given population. When genetic diversity is lost, the entire species becomes vulnerable to being wiped out by epidemic disease.
This principle is irrefutable and widely recognized as truth among nearly all scientifically-literate thinkers... except those pushing GMOs, of course. Those denialists selectively edit "scientific truth" to exclude any concerns that might question the wisdom of displacing the world's treasure of seed diversity with corporate-patented seeds. The Precautionary Principle is gladly thrown out the window when corporate profits are to be realized from doing so.
Transgenic GMOs could cause catastrophic ecocide
Beyond the loss of genetic diversity, Taleb is also concerned about the possibility of catastrophic transgenic effects which could somehow weaken the world's food crops in ways human scientists never intended or anticipated. Murphy's Law -- which states that if something can go wrong, it will -- is widely recognized as a frustrating truth across physics, medicine, computer science and space exploration. Yet it is magically and irrationally declared null and void only for GMOs, where the roll of the dice quite literally threatens the sustainability of future life on our planet.
As Taleb explains, even if the chance of any single genetically engineered crop going wild and unleashing global crop failures is very small, the fact that companies like Monsanto and DuPont seek to dominate the global seed supply by perpetually releasing more and more genetically engineered crops means that sooner or later, a genetic catastrophe is all but inevitable.
If you play Russian Roulette every weekend, in other words, and there really is a live round in one of the gun's chambers, sooner or later you are bound to blow your brains out. This is true even if the revolver has 1000 chambers (with 999 of them empty) so that the odds of losing seem incredibly small each time you play. (Interestingly, Taleb uses this exact same illustration in his paper...)
As Taleb also explains in his paper, the cost of losing is so great that even tiny odds of failure may not be acceptable. After all, we're talking about the entire future of life on our planet.
GMOs may unleash mass global crop failures followed by starvation and disease
I warned about precisely this issue two years ago in my "Murdered by Science" series of articles which discussed how careless applications of science are putting the very existence of the human race at risk. (And for the record, I am not anti-science. I am 100% pro-science when the Precautionary Principle is honored.)
Those articles, widely derided by prostitute scientists paid by corporations to troll the web and attack reason, are in fact even more urgent to read today, in 2014. In those articles, I pointed out that GMOs are in the most extreme class of pollutants because they are self-replicating. While chemical spills can eventually be cleaned up, and even heavy metals can be remediated over time, genetically engineered DNA that escapes into the wild can never be put back into a box.
Self-replicating pollution is the worst class of pollution, far exceeding even the risk of nuclear accidents wiping out humankind. "As humans, we are ill equipped to understand the mathematics behind such risks," writes Taleb. And he's correct: human brains are not hard-wired to fully grasp the long-term implications of self-replicating pollution. In the same way, most people are utterly incapable of accurately imagining the long-term outcomes of compounded interest -- a phenomenon which eerily reflects the spread of self-replicating pollution.
How dishonest science fools the uneducated masses
Because humans are not hard-wired to grasp the long-term risks of self-replicating pollution (as posed by genetically engineered crops), it is all too easy for paid prostitute-scientists to pull the wool over the eyes of the public and falsely claim GMOs present no risks whatsoever. This is why every single scientist who is currently promoting GMOs is, in fact, a threat to the continuation of human life on our planet. By deceiving the public and glossing over the very real threats to life posed by GMOs, they directly contribute to the spread of GMO genetic pollution which may end in genuine catastrophe and massive loss of life.
Imagine the global collapse of all GM corn crops. Or imagine the collapse of global soy production. Every crop which is GMO has some risk of being wiped out in a catastrophic manner caused by the un-natural manipulation of the crop's genetic code.
The history of scientific advancement, of course, is rife with huge failures to foresee unintended consequences. Perhaps the most important example of that is found in the current rise of superbugs across modern hospitals. Utterly unforeseen by the world's top scientists and pharmacological researchers, superbugs have now risen to such prominence in our health care system that even the CDC has warned that the age of antibiotics is over.
Superbugs, in fact, were a product of antibiotics. As drug companies churned out the drugs to "beat disease" -- and doctors prescribed those drugs to hundreds of millions of patients worldwide -- the perfect environment was created for the nurture and spread of antibiotic-resistant superbugs, many of which are fatal to patients.
I personally knew three people who were killed in U.S. hospitals by superbug infections. Superbugs are the new death pandemic in America, and they are currently killing 48,000 Americans each year. They were unleashed by scientists who had no intention of causing death and destruction. Rather, those scientists working on antibiotics genuinely believed they were saving lives with no downside. At first, it all seemed true -- antibiotics inarguably saved many lives early on. But now, antibiotics are in fact the reason why deadly superbugs have escaped the reach of modern medicine and genuinely threaten the human race with incurable infections.
Scientists are not immune to making catastrophic mistakes that cause massive death
The superbugs lesson desperately needs to be understood by the self-deluded prostitute-scientists currently pushing GMOs. Importantly, they need to swallow their arrogance for just long enough to understand that your INTENTION does not control the long-term effects of your ACTIONS.
Just because you wish for GMOs to "feed the world" does not mean they will. In fact, positive intentions can and do frequently blind scientists to the downsides of their own innovations. In example after example, scientists who believed they were pursuing technology for the betterment of humankind ended up inadvertently contributing to mass death and destruction.
The Manhattan Project, anyone?
But at least the dropping of atomic bombs on civilian populations in Japan was a catastrophe that could be contained. The damage, although immense, was limited and could not mysteriously multiply itself over time. GMOs, on the other hand, are like seeds of mass destruction because they can replicate, spread and conquer.
So controlling them may not be possible once they are unleashed. And they have already been unleashed. Genetic pollution is now widespread across our agricultural landscape, and the vast majority of organic farms in the USA have experienced some level of contamination from genetically engineered crops.
Why so few people are capable of rationally discussing the ecological risks of GMOs
In a very real sense, most human beings are cognitively incapable of participating in any rational discussion of these issues. This includes most scientists, by the way, who are themselves just as vulnerable to peer influences and false mythologies as anyone else. In the name of "science," far too many scientists today merely embarrass themselves by pushing obscenely silly arguments in defense of GMOs, claiming utterly stupid things like, "humans have tinkered with the genetic code of plants for thousands of years. Genetic engineering is no different."
Although this is the most frequently-invoked argument by GMO denialists, it is blatantly idiotic and grossly deceptive from the start. Selective breeding of various phenotypes within the genetic pool of a given species in no way equates to cross-species DNA manipulation which combines insect or soil genes with plant genes. Any person who even attempts to equate these two concepts does nothing more than affix a giant "DUNCE" sticker to their own foreheads. (And yes, numerous scientists invoke this silly argument every single day, across the mainstream media.)
Taleb also addresses this same issue head-on in his public paper, explaining:
Top-down modifications to the system (through GMOs) are categorically and statistically different from bottom up ones (regular farming, progressive tinkering with crops, etc.) There is no comparison between the tinkering of selective breeding and the top-down engineering of taking a gene from an organism and putting it into another. Saying that such a product is natural misses the statistical process by which things become "natural."
The abandonment of caution in the quest for profits
The next idiotic argument put forth by desperate prostitute-scientists is that GMOs aren't dangerous because there's no evidence they are dangerous. As stupid as this sounds, it is also the faith-based argument of the chemical industry which insists "all chemicals are safe until such time as they are proven dangerous."
If this bass-awkwards logic sounds familiar, it's because it is also invoked by the processed food industry in claiming that all food additives, preservatives and chemicals are inherently safe unless and until they are proven dangerous.
What all this non-logic has in common is an illogical presumption of safety. This has always been the argument of the mass poisoners of our world. Regardless of the poison being discussed -- BPA, mercury fillings, pesticide chemicals, DDT, toxic heavy metals, triclosan, MSG and more -- its corporate backers have consistently and predictably hired swaths of prostitute-scientists to declare the substance to be "safe until proven otherwise."
The tragic lesson of lead arsenate pesticides
This presumption of safety sooner or later ends very badly. For over a hundred years, the heavy metals pesticide lead arsenate was "presumed safe." Made primarily of lead and arsenic, it was indeed very effective at killing pests that threatened food crops. So farmers across North America and around the world sprayed it on their food crops, producing amazing quantities of food... at first, anyway.
Before long, the lead and arsenic bio-accumulated in agricultural soils, poisoning the trees that produced the food as well as the customers who ate it. To this day, soils across the world remain heavily poisoned by these deadly heavy metals, which is one of the reasons why so many superfood products sold today contain such high levels of heavy metals (see the Natural News Forensic Food Lab results for examples).
Lead arsenate -- just like GMOs -- was "presumed safe" because it didn't cause immediate death to anyone. According to corporate-sponsored prostitute-scientists, anything that doesn't kill you within seconds is automatically presumed to be safe. All long-term implications of the chemical or technology are willfully swept under the rug and ignored. Corporations lean on government regulators until the cover-up becomes policy. At that point, both government and industry become active collaborators in the mass poisoning of the human race.
And that's the whole point of my breakthrough article, The Battle For Humanity is Nearly Lost which covers this collusion in more detail.
In conclusion: No self-replicating technology can be presumed safe if we hope to survive
I am of the opinion, by the way, that human civilization will not survive the next 100 years. Our species is too shortsighted, too driven by greed and too easily manipulated to survive its own corporate-led destruction. The quest for short-term profits blinds nearly everyone to long-term implications. The fact that the masses are already heavily poisoned by this very process makes it nearly impossible for the public consciousness to achieve sufficient lucidity to halt the quickening pace of self-destruction.
So in one sense, I only write this out of a fondness for galactic amusement, not out of any real hope that humanity can save itself from destruction via heavy metals, synthetic chemicals, pharmaceuticals and GMOs. But on the off chance that I am wrong in my prediction of humanity's demise, if we are to survive as a species, such survival will necessitate the global embracing of the Precautionary Principle across all realms of science and technology.
Because even if we halt Monsanto and agree to have all the criminal biotechnology scientists halted from committing ecocide, we are all very likely going to be overrun by artificial intelligence before the year 2050, regardless of what else happens in agriculture or synthetic chemicals. Just as with GMOs, today's most brilliant computer scientists are wholly incapable of understanding the long-term implications of the race for conscious machines and advanced AI tech. The result will almost certainly be that humans will invent the technologies that destroy humanity, and we will all go down in history as the race of sentient beings who were smart enough to invent amazing technologies but too stupid to restrain them.
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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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04/08/14 04:32 PM
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After reading some about Monsanto, it's not only their products, but their hitmen (in a broad way, but not necessarily exclusive of the other) you have to worry about. Kind of makes you wonder if they are connected with dictatorial control. With their arrogant dismissal of their mistakes of the past and their willful targeting of individuals whether they are innocent or otherwise, I have nothing good to say about Monsanto. And that's regardless of the harm GMO's do to you or the environment! And if it's the company and not the product that is the real problem, is there any question as to whether they care if they have a safe product?
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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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It's a program for control of the food market. Control the food and everything else falls under their control as well.
There is no other way to make sense of what's going on. Why else can they get away with what they are doing if there was any fairness in how governments deal with theses people.
Often wonder if the control over "buy and sell" will be related to this control of the food market -- or if there will be any food available if they remove the ability for plants to reproduce?
As far as the "technology" is concerned -- it may go the opposite way where something causes all the systems to crash with irreparable damage and the populations won't know how to do anything anymore without all their gadgets. I'm not sure our civilization is getting 'smarter' (other than a few ) the vast majority can't even multiply or divide or add simple figures anymore without an electronic gadget.
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Re: Genetically Modified Products
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I think your latter part is right on. I've read where the supposedly advantages are not what is promoted and the plants do less well than what was planted. Some sort of problem arises and some countries will go hungry. They won't have any of their past genetics to grow as they let them perish for this "new" stuff. Or organizations "help" them by switching them to the new crops with all the supposed benefits and they lose the old. They starve and become dependent. And will be put in a position to be coerced to do whatever it takes to get food.
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