What is the biblical reckoning of the beginning and the ending of a day?

What does the Bible have to say about this?

Jesus was dead for "three days" from about the "ninth hour" on Friday to "very early in the morning . . . at the rising of the sun . . . when it was yet dark" ( about the first hour) on Sunday - approximately 39 hours.

The Jews divided a day from sunrise to sunset into 12 equal parts regardless of how many actual minutes there are on any given day of the year. Thus, an "hour" of Jewish time varies every day. "For example, on a day when the sun rises at 5 a.m. and sets at 7:30 p.m., one sha'ah zemanit, or proportional hour, will be 72.5 minutes long." Jewish Hour

The time of year Jesus died, Easter, sunrise and sunset were close to 6am and 6pm. Days and nights were almost equal. 12 hours each. Thus, Jesus died at approximately 3pm on Friday and rose at 6am on Sunday - about 39 hours or "three days".

The wording of Genesis 1:5 is interesting-

"And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." (KJV)

Evening is listed before morning here and in the following days. The original Hebrew text appears to be in this order as well. Young's Literal Translation says-

"and God calleth to the light 'Day,' and to the darkness He hath called 'Night;' and there is an evening, and there is a morning -- day one." (YLT)

The English Revised Version is similar-

"And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day." (ERV)


The Pulpit commentary notes an interesting connection with Daniel 8:14, which in the KJV says "Unto two thousand and three hundred days" but in many other translations, such as the ERV, say "Unto two thousand and three hundred evenings and mornings".


Also, chapter 16 on page 119 of Testimonies, vol 1, is interesting (italics in original)-


As we now know, Sabbath begins at sundown, but what does the angel mean, “Ye shall understand, but not yet, not yet.”? What is "even" that it's treated as some mystery?

Did Ellen White ever find out why it is important to commence the Sabbath at sundown?

This, from EGW and Her Critics, seems to explain it.

I think the issue was that it is for everyone to investigate the Bible and they had not thoroughly done so. I think the thing to understand was a lesson that they needed to search more carefully.


Here's a few excerpts-

From James White-From Brother Andrews-
From James again-From the book's author-

Thank you. Interesting. I thought maybe it had something to do with the eventual enforcement of the mark of the beast.

I remembered reading in Great Controversy on page 566- "An edict from the king of Scotland declared that Saturday from twelve at noon ought to be accounted holy, and that no man, from that time till Monday morning, should engage in worldly business."

Looking it up, there's actually some people arguing that from noon onwards is "evening" because the sun is in a downward progression at that point.

In fact, Exodus 12:6 in the KJV says "And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening." In some other translations instead of "evening" they say "between the evenings" (YLT).

Pulpit commentary on that verse says "In the evening. Literally, "between the two evenings." This phrase has been explained in two ways. Some regard the first evening as commencing when the sun begins visibly to decline from the zenith, i.e. about two or three o'clock; and the second as following the sunset. Others say, that the sunset introduces the first evening, and that the second begins when the twilight ends, which they consider to have been "an hour and twenty minutes later" (Ebn Ezra, quoted by Kalisch)..." and goes on to endorse the second explanation.

Gill's commentary, Jamieson-Fausset-Brown, Barnes, and others endorse the first explanation.

I met some Adventists in NY who aggressively believe Sabbath begins Saturday morning.

I forget there is nothing new under the sun. I had thought this was a new thing invading.

MM, by any chance did those you meet happen to be also keeping the convenient aspects of the Jewish feast days?

In the first chapter of Genesis the day is defined as evening and morning.

A few texts in proof of sunset time.

Gen. 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, 31; "And the evening and the morning were the ___ day."

Lev. 23:32 " a sabbath of rest... from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath."

Joshua 8:29;
10:26, 27; Gives hints that the day ended at evening.

Eze. 46:1, 2; "The gate of the inner court that looks toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened...the gate shall not be shut until the evening."

Luke 23:54, 56; "And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on....they laid Him in the sepulchre...and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment."
24:1 "Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning,

If the Sabbath would be from daylight to daylight, then the disciples went to the tomb on the seventh day, instead of the first day, for according to John's testimony (See John 20:1) they came when it was yet dark. But John, with all the rest, claims that they came on the first day.

Mark 1:29 "they were come out of the synagogue,...1:32 And at even, when the sun did set, they brought unto him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils."



Neh. 13:19 " And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and [some] of my servants set I at the gates, [that] there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day."

Kland, yes, they were feast-day fans, too.

asygo, it might make sense to you, but to them they say evening means morning.

To me, from evening to evening or between the evenings means a 24 hour period starting and ending at the same point in the day. But looks like some try to say it's a subset of a day.

What is happening, is an attempt to diminish the Sabbath. First they say it happens on different days of the week, then they say it starts in the morning, then they say it ends at noon. So now all you have to do is get up, go to church, come home and the Sabbath is over. And then make it happen on different days and wouldn't you know, since there's a ball game on Saturday, this week the Sabbath is on Wednesday.... unless there's also a game on that day. That is, in the morning. The end result intended by them is that it doesn't really matter.

When does the twenty-four-hour day begin---at sunset, at sunrise, or at midnight?

Answer:

The twenty-four-hour cycle begins at sunset, because at the moment the earth came into existence and began to rotate on its axis, there was no light “upon the face of the deep,” whereupon “God said, Let there be light: and there was light....And the evening and the morning were the first day.” Gen. 1:2, 3, 5.

The “light” which shone on the first day, and by which God divided the day from the night (set the earth revolving on its axis), was not, however, that of the sun, for the sun and the moon were not created until the fourth day, when He spoke them forth “to rule over the day and over the night” (Gen. 1:18), which He had beforehand established.

Thus it was that whereas the earth began punctuating eternal time with the first night of creation week, from which the weekly seventh-day Sabbath is measured; the moon began punctuating time at the end of the third day and at the beginning of the fourth night from which the month is measured, and the sun began to punctuate time at the end of the fourth night and the beginning of the fourth day, from which the year is measured.

Accordingly, the time-span which measures and segments the week, is three days in advance of the time-spans which measure and segment the solar year and the lunar month. In order, therefore, that His people might commemorate the week of creation, from the instant that the span of earthly time began, God commanded: “From even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.” Lev. 23:32.

So the twenty-four-hour day begins with the; night, at sunset; and the daytime itself, separate from the nighttime, begins at sunrise. (Answerer, vol. 3, Q-49)

Along with my suspicions of who Daryl was talking to which resulted in this thread, I'm wondering if of the feast-day fans you know, if you would say science, math, and logic would not be their strong points?

Makes sense too say the least...

There are texts in scripture that seem to support sun rise as the beginning of the day.
But there strong texts in scripture that supports the evening to evening understanding, especially for a religious day.

Some see this as saying that
- The work day starts at sunrise, the sun is up it's day, get up and start your day of work, sort of thing.
-- But a religious day starts at evening, as the sun goes down, put away secular things, and jobs, and focus on the spiritual, there will be no work that day.
--
Nehemiah 13:19 As soon as it began to grow dark at the
gates of Jerusalem before the Sabbath,
I commanded that the doors should be
shut and gave orders that they should
not be opened until after the Sabbath.
And I stationed some of my servants at
the gates, that no load might be brought
in on the Sabbath day.

John 20:1 Now on the first day of the week Mary
Magdalene came to the tomb early, while
it was still dark, and saw that the stone
had been taken away from the tomb.

Matth 28:1 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week,

John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, (the resurrection day) being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews,

Lev. 7:15 And the flesh of the sacrifice of his peace offerings for thanksgiving shall be
eaten on the day of his offering. He shall not leave any of it until the morning.

Lev. 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD's passover.
Numbers 9:2-3 Let the children of Israel also keep the passover
at his appointed season.
In the fourteenth day of this month, at even, ye shall keep it

Lev.23:32 From even unto even, shall ye celebrate your Sabbath.

Mark 1:32 And at even, when the sun did set, they brought unto him all that were diseased,

So it seems to me -- even though there are texts in which people see the morning as the beginning of their work day, the Bible clearly states when a religious day, and the sabbath is to be kept.
It begins at EVENING and ends the next EVENING.
A direct command takes precedence.

The problem is mixing daylight with a 24 hour "day". And some of these feastkeeping flat earthers will even admit one shouldn't confuse the two, and then proceed to amalgamate the two.


And they'll say that verse is a feast sabbath not a regular day. Meaning that certain days begin at certain times, and other days begin at other times and this feast day overlaps other days.
Wha?...!

What are they trying to pull?
Guess anything other than following the Sabbath.

All you have to do is check with the Jews, they can tell you...