Choose the Best Foods.--In order to know what are the best foods, we must study God's original plan for man's diet. He who created man and who understands his needs appointed Adam his food. . . . Grains, fruits, nuts, and vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our Creator. {CG 380.1}

649. Vegetables, fruits, and grains should compose our diet. Not an ounce of flesh meat should enter our stomachs. The eating of flesh is unnatural. We are to return to God's original purpose in the creation of man. {CD 380.2}

Green, it appears you have not cared for an orchard.

When was the "herb of the field" created?

kland,

I have indeed cared for orchards. I have spent hundreds of hours pruning trees of many varieties, including apples, peaches, pears, apricots, cherries, and even ordinary "shade trees" like elms. I'm not sure why you would presume to know about someone you've never met nor asked regarding this. I fail to see how this relates to any of the present discussion. I never said it did not require any labor to grow fruit. I will say I have sweat far less sitting in a tree and pruning its branches than I have sweat shoveling, tilling, planting, and hoeing in a field or garden.

I weeded by hand a 10-acre field in less than a month under a hot sun. I'd prefer the orcharding any day in terms of ease and comfort.

Adam and Eve had work to do before sin, and we will have work to do in heaven. But that work will not be the "sweat of the brow" type of labor which Adam was forced to do after his sin, when the "herb of the field" was added to his diet.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

'nuff sed.

But do you suggest the amount of hours spent or the amount of sweat exuded determine whether something is a vegetable or not?


Again, When was the "herb of the field" created?

By using frozen fruit it is easy to get fruit all year in some areas like here. Fresh organic apples from South America is an option, although they are more expensive.

Most of the vegetables we consume are prepared in a haystack. Occasionally we indulge in a pizza we order on the net where I choose vegetables as ingredients and pick it up hot a block from our place as it is taken out of the oven. A delicious vegeburger is available accross the street in our small town of about 7.000. At 80 we could sell the house and garden in the country and moved into town while we still had the strength to do do so.

Blood tests show that I still have sufficient B12 on a vegetarian diet that has carried me through soon for 82 years.

Do they run greenhouses in Iceland? Seems like there or Greenland I had read about geothermal and greenhouses.

I just got out of a shower. We can take as many hot showers as we want with hot water straight out of the ground. Most of our homes are heated with this kind of hot water that flows freely and it also generates eletricity. We have greenhouses all over the country where flowers, vegetables and fruit is grown all year with electrical light in the winter. We might be able to produce all of the tomatoes used in England in our greenhouses.

Either you haven't raised truck vegetables, or you haven't had much experience with fruit trees. The "hundreds of hours" I've spent on trees happens to have existed with 1) many more acres of trees than I've ever done with a garden; and 2) multiple years of experience, including multiple countries in which this experience was gleaned in orcharding. If I were to put in the same amount of time to care for a vegetable garden, I dare say I could care for but a fraction of the acreage. This may not have come to your mind, for lack of personal experience. Where I have spent hundreds of hours in fruit trees, I would have spent thousands in the vegetable garden for the equivalent amount of produce.

Regardless, none of this has much to do with B-12. I don't even feel that B-12 is the secret to longevity that was in the fruit of the Tree of Life. I believe that fruit has something far more important to our long-term health.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Again, When was the "herb of the field" created?

It looks like I hit upon a key question.

So whenever someone starts spouting that "herb of the field" absolutely means "vegetable", they are silenced by merely asking, when was the "herb of the field" created?

kland,

There comes a point when arguing does no good. Silence does not always mean there is no answer. It may mean there is no reason to sink more pearls in the mire.

Perhaps, however, I'll ask a question in response: When did God create passover and sacrificial lambs?

(Did He command that they be eaten to provide His people a steady source of B-12?)

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.